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London and Middlesex / Re: 1901 Census London
« on: Sunday 14 December 25 16:26 GMT (UK) »
He was a boot maker and childrens MC also states the same.
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London and Middlesex / Re: 1901 Census London
« on: Saturday 13 December 25 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Right Ladies,
Thank you for the input
CaroleW:
Wrote wrong birth year. You are right. His grave in Liverpool has no headstone. Gertrude use to go now and again to the cemetery and thats how I know he is the father( family talk)
Softly Softly:
Thank you that could be right.
I think the problem with the surname is how someone transcribed the written word. Also if spoken the transcriber may have written the name how they thought it should be spelt. I say this as on my fathers' side "Boler" over the years back was written "Boaler", "Bowler", "Boler". In one case of census; Parents down as Bowler and children as Boaler and the children used Boaler as their surname thereafter.
I am grateful for your inputs and will soldier on and one day resolve the mystery
Thank you for the input
CaroleW:
Wrote wrong birth year. You are right. His grave in Liverpool has no headstone. Gertrude use to go now and again to the cemetery and thats how I know he is the father( family talk)
Softly Softly:
Thank you that could be right.
I think the problem with the surname is how someone transcribed the written word. Also if spoken the transcriber may have written the name how they thought it should be spelt. I say this as on my fathers' side "Boler" over the years back was written "Boaler", "Bowler", "Boler". In one case of census; Parents down as Bowler and children as Boaler and the children used Boaler as their surname thereafter.
I am grateful for your inputs and will soldier on and one day resolve the mystery
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London and Middlesex / Re: 1901 Census London
« on: Saturday 13 December 25 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you ladies,
This couple lived in Cheetham Hill and had grocery shop. A friend in Holland checked this out and never found any children born to this couple.
In 1911 mine were in Liverpool with the children. David died in 1910.
Thank you for your input
Steve62
This couple lived in Cheetham Hill and had grocery shop. A friend in Holland checked this out and never found any children born to this couple.
In 1911 mine were in Liverpool with the children. David died in 1910.
Thank you for your input
Steve62
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London and Middlesex / 1901 Census London
« on: Saturday 13 December 25 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Folks,
Leaving apart prevous postings on this family I have one new question only.
David Goldstein b. 1872 Russia d. 1910 Liverpool & Leah Goldstein (neč Labisky) 1874 Russia d. 1946 Manchester
children: Gertrude b. 1895 (+/- 2 years) b. St. George in the East.
Lazarus b. 1898 Whitechapel
The question is why can I not find them in 1901 Census in London or elsewhere.
Have all relevant info.
Thank you
Steve62
Leaving apart prevous postings on this family I have one new question only.
David Goldstein b. 1872 Russia d. 1910 Liverpool & Leah Goldstein (neč Labisky) 1874 Russia d. 1946 Manchester
children: Gertrude b. 1895 (+/- 2 years) b. St. George in the East.
Lazarus b. 1898 Whitechapel
The question is why can I not find them in 1901 Census in London or elsewhere.
Have all relevant info.
Thank you
Steve62
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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Cecily M. Boler
« on: Thursday 16 October 25 16:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much.
Appreciate your inputs and time.
Grateful
Steve
Appreciate your inputs and time.
Grateful
Steve
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Canada Lookup Request / Cecily M. Boler
« on: Thursday 16 October 25 12:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks,
Cannot find a marriage in Ontario, Canada:-
Cecily M. Boler 1921-1997 (B & D in Canada) - Parents Walter Harold Boler 1868-1922 & Ann Coutts Boler (neč Morrison) 1883-1955)
Douglas Scott Baxter 1916-2000 (B & D in Canada)
Have all the info on her family.
Only one thing Cecily in 1926 with mother Ann Coutts Boler (Widow) went to the UK "Outgoing Canadian Passenger Lists". Have not found a return trip, but mother Ann died in Toronto.
No marriage found in the UK, so presuming they returned sometime to Canada and Cecily married Douglas there.
Grateful thanks for any assistance.
steve
Cannot find a marriage in Ontario, Canada:-
Cecily M. Boler 1921-1997 (B & D in Canada) - Parents Walter Harold Boler 1868-1922 & Ann Coutts Boler (neč Morrison) 1883-1955)
Douglas Scott Baxter 1916-2000 (B & D in Canada)
Have all the info on her family.
Only one thing Cecily in 1926 with mother Ann Coutts Boler (Widow) went to the UK "Outgoing Canadian Passenger Lists". Have not found a return trip, but mother Ann died in Toronto.
No marriage found in the UK, so presuming they returned sometime to Canada and Cecily married Douglas there.
Grateful thanks for any assistance.
steve
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Nottinghamshire / Re: Samuel (aka James) Boler
« on: Monday 04 August 25 16:07 BST (UK) »
Annie6515
Alice Ann Boler 1874-1972 m. Joseph L. Christian
James Matthew Boler 1876-1918
Jane Boler 18781961 N/M
Charles Matthew Boler 1881-1881
John Frederick Boler1881-1968 m. Emma Hamer
Edith Alice Boler 1884-1981 m. William Hopwood
John Henry Boler 1886- m. Mary E. Jones
Louise Alice Boler 1887-1969 m. John Cheatle (died) m. Thomas Gannon
Herbert Featherstone Boler 1890-1952 m. Elizabeth C. Whelwell (died) m. Sarah Ann Evans
Annie Boler 1892-1988 N/M.
Norah Boler 1895-1990 m. Alexander Russell
John Frederick Boler was baptised at St. Pauls, Pendleton in 1883 (Father John Boler)
Although John Henry Boler left his wife he turned up at her funeral in 1920 and to disappear again and never to be found. He was Merchant Seaman.
My uncle Eric Boler, the son of J.F. Boler and Emma Hamer told me the story of the Featherstone connection and presume his father must have told him at some time.
Further someone with a connection to John Henry Boler told me a similar story and that the wife of Featherstone had a fight with Mary Byrne and left her husband. Uncle Eric said all this happened in or after 1878.
So where Samuel Boler went after that is a mystery and the 1891 could be correct or a coincidence.
Thank you steve62
Alice Ann Boler 1874-1972 m. Joseph L. Christian
James Matthew Boler 1876-1918
Jane Boler 18781961 N/M
Charles Matthew Boler 1881-1881
John Frederick Boler1881-1968 m. Emma Hamer
Edith Alice Boler 1884-1981 m. William Hopwood
John Henry Boler 1886- m. Mary E. Jones
Louise Alice Boler 1887-1969 m. John Cheatle (died) m. Thomas Gannon
Herbert Featherstone Boler 1890-1952 m. Elizabeth C. Whelwell (died) m. Sarah Ann Evans
Annie Boler 1892-1988 N/M.
Norah Boler 1895-1990 m. Alexander Russell
John Frederick Boler was baptised at St. Pauls, Pendleton in 1883 (Father John Boler)
Although John Henry Boler left his wife he turned up at her funeral in 1920 and to disappear again and never to be found. He was Merchant Seaman.
My uncle Eric Boler, the son of J.F. Boler and Emma Hamer told me the story of the Featherstone connection and presume his father must have told him at some time.
Further someone with a connection to John Henry Boler told me a similar story and that the wife of Featherstone had a fight with Mary Byrne and left her husband. Uncle Eric said all this happened in or after 1878.
So where Samuel Boler went after that is a mystery and the 1891 could be correct or a coincidence.
Thank you steve62
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Nottinghamshire / Re: Samuel (aka James) Boler
« on: Sunday 03 August 25 23:33 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to you all.
Samuel Boler b. 1854 Mansfield
Parents: John Boler 1790-1879 b. Clipstone d. Mansfield & Ann Cotes 1812-1879 b. Shirland, Derbyshire d. Mansfield.
1861 - High Oakham, Mansfield - Think this one states "James"
1871 - High Oakham, Mansfield - Samuel Wheelwright
Marriage Samuel Boler and Mary Byrne 1852-1934 b. Rep, Ireland. d. Salford, Lancashire
06/11/1873 at Barton-upon-Irwell, Lancashire
Marriage Cerificate states Samuel Bowler.
1881 - Pendleton, Manchester - Mary (widow)
1891 - Pendleton, Manchester - Mary (Widow)
1891 - St. Margarets, Leicester - Samuel Boler (wheelwright) living alone.
1901 - Pendleton, Manchester - Mary (Widow)
1911 - Pendleton, Manchester - Mary (Widow)
Samuel left his wife after 1878 on discovering she was having an affair with neighbour baker John Featherstone. The 9 children from 1878 to 1895 have father as "John Boler)
Sorry don't have copies anymore of the Census.
Thanking you all.
Steve62
Samuel Boler b. 1854 Mansfield
Parents: John Boler 1790-1879 b. Clipstone d. Mansfield & Ann Cotes 1812-1879 b. Shirland, Derbyshire d. Mansfield.
1861 - High Oakham, Mansfield - Think this one states "James"
1871 - High Oakham, Mansfield - Samuel Wheelwright
Marriage Samuel Boler and Mary Byrne 1852-1934 b. Rep, Ireland. d. Salford, Lancashire
06/11/1873 at Barton-upon-Irwell, Lancashire
Marriage Cerificate states Samuel Bowler.
1881 - Pendleton, Manchester - Mary (widow)
1891 - Pendleton, Manchester - Mary (Widow)
1891 - St. Margarets, Leicester - Samuel Boler (wheelwright) living alone.
1901 - Pendleton, Manchester - Mary (Widow)
1911 - Pendleton, Manchester - Mary (Widow)
Samuel left his wife after 1878 on discovering she was having an affair with neighbour baker John Featherstone. The 9 children from 1878 to 1895 have father as "John Boler)
Sorry don't have copies anymore of the Census.
Thanking you all.
Steve62
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Nottinghamshire / Samuel (aka James) Boler
« on: Sunday 03 August 25 16:34 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Grateful if someone could look up the following for me:-
Samuel Boler (aka James Boler and Samuel James Boler) born 1853 Mansfield. Date of death unknown. Left his wife and disappeared,
1. Uk City and County Directories 1766-1946
2. Uk Poll and Electoral Roll Recisters 1838-1893
Thank you.
Steve62
Grateful if someone could look up the following for me:-
Samuel Boler (aka James Boler and Samuel James Boler) born 1853 Mansfield. Date of death unknown. Left his wife and disappeared,
1. Uk City and County Directories 1766-1946
2. Uk Poll and Electoral Roll Recisters 1838-1893
Thank you.
Steve62