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England / Re: Westminster / Parliamentary Records
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 18:47 BST (UK)  »
Just a thought...General Macready was the commander in Chief, Ireland at the time.  If you go to The National Archives website and search their records using 'General Macready' as the search term and using 1921 as the year, the result includes a long list of weekly reports submitted by Macready - maybe it is one of these referred to in the Westminster archives.  The reports and files containing correspondence between Macready and Greenwood form part of the Parliamentary archives not digitised so they would need to be viewed in person.

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England / Re: Westminster / Parliamentary Records
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 16:23 BST (UK)  »
I've had a browse through a number of the Hansard report summaries relating to Sir Hamar Greenwood and in a number of them he refers to reports given to him by the Royal Irish Constabulary.  I note that you mentioned the auxiliaries and black and tans in an earlier post and, as I understand it, they were working with the RIC at the time.  (Forgive my ignorance, I only have a very limited knowledge of the events at the time.)  Could the report have emanated from the RIC?  there are records at TNA

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/royal-irish-constabulary.htm#

From a brief scan it looks as though the incident could be included in CO 906
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details/redirect/?CATLN=3&CATID=3565&CATREF=CO+906&CATLN=3&CATID=3565&SearchInit=4&SearchType=6&CATREF=CO+906


 or possibly WO 35

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details/redirect/?CATLN=3&CATID=13095&CATREF=WO+35&CATLN=3&CATID=13095&SearchInit=4&SearchType=6&CATREF=WO+35


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The Common Room / Re: Centenarians in the 19th century
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 14:05 BST (UK)  »
I don't know how accurate this is but in the churchyard at St Mary's Church, Battle, East Sussex, there is a headstone which reads:

 'To the memory of Isaac Ingall who died April the 2nd 1798 aged 120 years'. 

Many years ago a guide at the church told me that Isaac was a servant who had worked for the same family all his life and that they had erected the headstone.  Unfortunately, baptism records are a bit patchy that far back so I haven't been able to verify the facts.  When looking for the baptism of an ancestor of mine from Battle born around the same time, I learned that some of the parish records had not survived or had been too badly damaged to be legible.

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England / Re: Westminster / Parliamentary Records
« on: Thursday 17 July 14 13:52 BST (UK)  »
You have obviously done a lot of research already in Ireland and I can understand why you want to see the British side of things.  It is possible to make a Freedom of Information request

https://www.gov.uk/make-a-freedom-of-information-request/the-freedom-of-information-act

but clearly you need to have the relevant information details.  Do you know which regiment of the British army was involved?  I'm just wondering if there is an alternative way of identifying the report referred to in the Westminster archives, say, tracing military information relating to the incident.  Any such sensitive information might be subject to the 100 years' rule but I have recently had access to two naval files from WW2 that are both marked 'Secret' and 'closed until 2041'.

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England / Re: Westminster / Parliamentary Records
« on: Wednesday 16 July 14 17:29 BST (UK)  »
Is this one of statements you have already found?  It appears to refer to the same incident


http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS0602.pdf


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England / Re: Westminster / Parliamentary Records
« on: Wednesday 16 July 14 17:16 BST (UK)  »
I haven't looked for records of this nature before but I wonder if the report arose in Ireland.  The Irish Times has reports of various atrocities around that time but I don't have a subscription so I can't look at them.  Perhaps there would be more information available in The National Archives of Ireland.
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/

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England / Re: Westminster / Parliamentary Records
« on: Wednesday 16 July 14 09:35 BST (UK)  »
There is an archive enquiry service for the parliamentary archives;

Archive Enquiry Services
We can answer simple enquiries over the telephone, but most enquiries should be sent to us by post, fax or e-mail.

If you are telephoning to make a searchroom booking, please also give us your e-mail address if you have one, so we can confirm your appointment by e-mail.

We cannot undertake detailed research for users but we can provide advice about the scope of the records for particular topics. Our Reprographic Service can also supply copies of readily identifiable material, by post or e-mail. We aim to answer all enquiries within 10 working days.

Please ensure you have consulted the following before you send your enquiry:

Frequently Asked Questions
Planning Your Visit
Catalogue
E-mail   archives@parliament.uk

Phone +44 (0)20 7219 3074

Fax +44 (0)20 7219 2570

Post   Parliamentary Archives, Houses of Parliament, London, SW1A 0PW, United Kingdom

It might be worth contacting them to see if they can guide you in the right direction.

I love all these archive sites but I am so easily distracted that I always end up reading masses of stuff that's nothing to do with my research.....


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Thank you for your kind words, Maria, but I can't claim to have any special research skills and there are many others here on Rootschat more knowledgeable and experienced than I.  I've 'learned my way around' the records in counties where I have ancestors, joined family history societies and so on, and have learned from and been helped by other Rootschatters.  Quite apart from that, we all enjoy the challenge of a good mystery!

Many small schools were set up by individual schoolmasters/mistresses and came and went fairly quickly.  The Dorset History Centre
 https://www.dorsetforyou.com/dorsethistorycentre

or Poole Museum 
http://www.boroughofpoole.com/leisure-and-culture/museums-and-local-history/museum/

may be able to guide you in the right direction with regard to the school, any major epidemics etc.

Both Timothy and Richard died after the registration of births, marriages and deaths started in 1837 so you can order copies of their death certificates, which will show the cause of death, from GRO.  The cost, £9.25 per certificate, includes postage to anywhere in the world.  If you decide to order them, you will need to quote the full page and volume numbers for the register entries you have already found.

It is such a shame that Timothy didn't last another ten years as his place of birth would have been shown in the 1851 census!  Sometimes people are missing from parish registers simply because the minister forgot to enter them.  The registers that we are familiar with are monthly summaries of the services that took place.  Some ministers were scrupulously accurate and entered additional details (such as dates of birth with baptisms) whilst others were appallingly sloppy and got the details wrong or left out entries altogether.  One local vicar, looking after several rural parishes, entered my Alner family as Allenor, Alver, Allen and Arnold.  I had to check the original parish registers then cross check that other families of those names weren't living in the area to make sure I had the right family members as all the other biographical details matched.  I've seen marriage registers with entries completed then names crossed out and different names written over the top, dates scribbled out and changed, entries left half finished and gaps left, presumably for things the minister couldn't quite remember at the time.

Anyway, more information about the Oakes may come to light so we'll keep them on the back burner.




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The Common Room / Re: At the end of my research
« on: Friday 04 July 14 22:50 BST (UK)  »
I agree with all the comments that have been posted here.  The journey never comes to an end. After much soul searching I purchased a subscription to a newspaper site as my local library doesn't subscribe (but many do).  It has been one of the most fascinating and enlightening things I have done in my family research.  I have read about family incidents I would never have known about otherwise, good and bad, and it has given me a much deeper understanding of, and respect for, my ancestors.   Why not try your local library to see if they have a newspaper library subscription?

Similarly, I have learned a lot from reading wills.  My ancestors were all in fairly humble occupations but many of them left wills.  I was surprised to find, for example, that a 6 x g grandfather born in the 1740s who left home and started from scratch in a neighbouring county as a blacksmith had left not only a thriving business but also a number of substantial properties in the same village (which I have since visited).  Wills can also identify family members and clarify relationships.

Many county records offices also have online catalogues.  These can contain a vast array of documents including bastardy records, property transactions, criminal convictions and many, many more categories.  It is well worth a search for some of your family members.

Once you've been bitten by the family history bug there's no going back, you just have to keep finding out more.



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