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I have been doing research on the Napier family who were originally from Surrey - pleas find them here: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190039653/william_henry-napier

I did find on FamilySearch a record of a tree that seem to show the baptism of a girl named Ada Julia Napier (I will attach) but I cannot trace its source. Can anybody verify this record or anything to state she existed?

Thank you kindly

Ashley

Hi Ashley

I wonder too if ChCh Library might have a note of Walter's burial amongst those in it's card index (Church records) 

  ~  Lu

I will enquire. Should be as he is probably buried in one of the local church cemeteries.

Hello everyone

For a long, long time, I have felt uncomfortable as to whether Walter Ormiston MacKay was buried at Camp Bay Quarantine Cemetery. It's a case of conflicting information. First let me give you a little background:

Walter (born October 12th 1862 Kildonan, Sutherland, Scotland) He was the son of Robert and Elizabeth MacKay. Walter was also a brother to Jessie (NZ Poet), Walter Ormiston (named out of respect of Walter), Eleanor (Nell), John George, Isabella Esther (Tibby), Herbert (Scott), Agnes Emily (Ness) and Georgina (Tink). Walter and his parents came out to New Zealand in 1863 on board the SS Brothers' Pride which anchored at Camp Bay (in Diamond Harbour) on the morning of December 9th 1863. All passengers were placed in quarantine.

Findagrave link: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/259738084/walter-ormiston-mackay

The research thus far:

Walter died 9 months from croup according to the book "A Voice on the Wind" (written by Nellie F.H. Macleod, about the life of Jessie Mackay). I, myself, have yet to read a copy of this book.

A good portion of the passengers were released from quarantine on January 6th 1864. On that day, the doctor for the SS Brothers' Pride wrote a letter to the Health Commissioner (Doctor Donald) in which he describes of 2 deaths occurring in quarantine (Hathaway & Trigg). It also describes of a steamer (called Gazette) picking them up (except for a few - four - as there was not enough room on the steamer) taking them to Lyttelton & Chistchurch.

A later letter from Dr McLean, written on 16 January 1864, states that there are only three patients left at Camp Bay – all adults: a young man, and two women who had just given birth, and that he expected they would all be well enough to leave the following week.

In 1913 there was a reunion held for 50th anniversary of the journey of the Brothers' Pride - in a newspaper it describes of 4 deaths occurring in quarantine.

If you visit this link: https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/blogs/post/jessie-mackay-poet-and-crusader/ it describes of quarantine at Lyttelton - I, myself, naturally thought this to be a mistake and to be referring to the quarantine barracks at Camp Bay. But this does back up the claim of 4 deaths occurring.

My questions:

Do you think it is possible, when referring to 4 deaths, 2 of the deaths might have occurred actually at Lyttelton, at its quarantine barracks there?


Thank you very much for your help,

Ashley

 .....  What is uncertain was whether he died at sea or in harbour, and what happened to his body. Looking at passenger lists in the newspapers, Mr. Butler, it appears, had travelled alone. The ship's doctor, the surgeon superintendent, wrote his report November 11th and Mr. Butler is not mentioned - only the death of the other passenger.
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Hi Ashley

Am assuming that you may have read the "Lady Jocelyn" Surgeon Superindendent's report at PapersPast's online Parliamentary Papers A to J's  ??

So if you go back to Parliamentary Papers at the PapersPast site .... type in search bar, the following
>   Lady Jocelyn + 1873   (30 results returned).

>   scroll down through the first 10 results (about halfway down page) until you reach
D-01d     Immigration to New Zealand (Further Memoranda for the Agent General )
  1873  NEW ZEALAND      --    1873  Session 1    * Click on  this link *

>   scroll down to page No. 8

>   scroll further until you come to > ENCLOSURE  3 - in No. 12 it's the last item on page 8    > REPORT of Immigration Commissioners on Ship "Lady Jocelyn" arrived 11 November 1872 "

In the 3rd paragraph of that report you'll find your answer   

   ... "A saloon passenger died from consumption shortly before arrival, and was buried at sea."

(Apologies - couldn't manage to get a direct link to this - without some difficulty - hence the "how to find" instructions. ) 

   ~   Lu
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Thank you Lu - that is brillant! I will make the amendment in my documents. 

Hello everyone 

Over the years, I have been uncovering the people buried at Camp Bay Quarantine Cemetery. I've listed my findings at Find a Grave. There remains one man who I have not been 100% sure about: Mr. Albert L. Butler. What I am seeking is your expert opinion and feedback...or any thoughts you may have regarding his death and burial.

Please let me provide you with the background:

Mr. Butler was a saloon/cabin passenger on the SS Lady Jocelyn. His death certificate says he died from consumption on November 11th 1872 - the same day the ship entered Lyttelton Harbour and came to anchor off of Ripapa Island at 4pm. Close to about an hour previous to that, the Lady Jocelyn had been inspected by the Emigration and Health Officer, who discovered that Mr. Butler had recently died (including the information of one other death earlier during the voyage).

What is uncertain was whether he died at sea or in harbour, and what happened to his body. Looking at passenger lists in the newspapers, Mr. Butler, it appears, had travelled alone. The ship's doctor, the surgeon superintendent, wrote his report November 11th and Mr. Butler is not mentioned - only the death of the other passenger.

The passengers were landed on the morning of November 12th.

Normally, cabin/saloon passengers are buried in a private or public cemetery - I researched (with help) and there is no record of Mr. Butler being buried at any of the local church cemeteries or public cemeteries around the Lyttelton area.

My own personal conclusion is he died and his death went unnoticed until the officers made their inspection and because he was on his own, his body buried at Camp Bay Quarantine Cemetery.

Here is a link to the listing I made:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/259738821/albert-l-butler

I also made made a post here, with only the findagrave listing:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=889971.new#new

Do you think he was buried at sea or at Campbay?

My warmest regards,

Ashley