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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / The McFadden Project is looking for additional participants
« on: Sunday 06 October 13 06:21 BST (UK)  »
http://www.themcfaddenproject.com

The purpose of The McFadden Project is to learn more about the origins and history of the Mac Pháidín surname and its many anglicized variants, as well as any relation to other clans/surnames.  Current project results can viewed here: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/mcfadden/default.aspx?section=yresults.

The current focus of the site is recruiting men with any of the following names (or similar names not yet listed) for Y-DNA testing: Fadden, Fadian, Fadyn, MacFadden, MacFaden, MacFadgen, MacFadin, MacFadyan, MacFadyen, MacFadyn, MacFadzean, MacFadzen, MacFadzien, MacFaiden, MacFayden, MacPadden, MacPaden, MacPhadden, MacPhaden, MacPhadon, MacPhadyen, MacPhaiden, MacSpadden, McFaddan, McFadden, McFaddin, McFaden, McFadgen, McFadin, McFadyan, McFadyen, McFadyn, McFadzean, McFadzen, McFadzien, McFaiden, McFayden, McPadden, McPaden, McPhadden, McPhaden, McPhadon, McPhadyen, McPhaiden, McPhayden, McSpadden, Padden, Paden, Paterson, Paton, Patten, Patterson, Patton, Peden.

More information can be found here: http://themcfaddenproject.com/dna-testing-info/

Any questions can be directed to rob @ themcfaddenproject . com (eliminate spaces when using the address).

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Australia / Waverley Cemetery Photo Request
« on: Wednesday 02 October 13 12:33 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I was hoping someone might be able to take a photo at Waverley Cemetery if they happened to be going there for some other reason.  The information is:
Owen McFadden
Died July 10, 1914
Section: 17 special
Row: 3
Plot: 506

Figured it couldn't hurt to ask!

Thanks,
Rob
Delaware, USA

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United States of America / Re: Keenans Ireland to Philadelphia
« on: Wednesday 14 November 12 11:30 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ocian_c on Saturday 03 November 12 19:57 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone,

I am really hoping that someone could help me crack a mystery or at least help me in the right direction.  I have two Great Great Uncles born circa 1872 in Co. Derry Ireland.  One is called John and one is called Thomas.  Both emmigrated to Philadelphia after the late 1880s onwards (I think).  Now i ahve been using three forms of attack on this quest but just cant seem to chisel at the mystery.

I have been trying to search for marriages for John and Thomas Keenan in the Philadelphia city, but is there anyway to find out who the father was registered on a marriage certificate without ordering it? As using their Father's name is one of the only ways i can verify that i might be on the right track?  Their father also being Thomas.

Secondly, i have trawled passenger lists but just unsure if i have exhausted all databases as i only have an ancestry subscription.

Also i have looked at Census' but again i am unable to verify details.

Can anyone who has dealt with American records possibly tell me what is the best avenue i should pursue as i really don't know what to do next?

The only other snippet of info i have is that there used to be a Betty Keenan who lived on Pennsylvania Avenue in Philadelphia.  However, i don't have any dates for this, just what i have been told by an elderly aunt.

I would really appreciarte any help anyone could offer.

Ciaran

My mother's side is nothing but Irish immigrants who came to Philadelphia, so I have a little experience with these records.
 - No, I don't know of a way to see the details of Philly marriage records without ordering the certs.
 - Ancestry's Philadelphia passenger lists are extensive, but poorly transcribed in some places and also the Ancestry database can be a bit temperamental.  Just because someone doesn't come up on a search doesn't mean they aren't in there.  Also, many passenger lists from the 1800s contain no more information than names, making them near impossible to confirm without other documentation and generally useless.  Passenger lists in the 1900s can be very helpful though.

Your best bet is census records, city directories and the death records (up to 1915) available for free on familysearch, including scans of the originals.

What were the parents names?  Do you know anything about their occupations?  Are you sure that they married?

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United States of America / Re: Philadelphia Archives?
« on: Thursday 06 September 12 11:58 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: anniedwyer84 on Friday 17 August 12 19:31 BST (UK)
Hello....

Just wondering if there's any kind soul going to or willing to go to the Philadelphia Archives in Market Street, PA that would be able to do a lookup for me. I would do it - but am in Ireland  :) I've got the name, date of birth and parents for the person. Would like to see if he had anymore siblings, and if infact the parents did marry

Any help would be great

Annie

Philadelphia is a large city that has taken in loads of Irish immigrants.  It would be a chore to look those things up in the archives without dates or names.  You'd be better off trying to establish the family through other records, like the censuses, and only go after vital records when you know the names and at least the approximate year.  If you post whatever info you have, I could try to see what I could find online.

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Lancashire / Re: Can't find a trace of a marriage
« on: Saturday 14 July 12 16:21 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Friday 13 July 12 19:56 BST (UK)
Looking at the Irish census with Michael & Katherine Cororcan and their children named Mary, Patrick & Bridget - do you think one of the girls could be named after her mother?

I have found this 1871 census living Lancashire there's a Kate's Sloman age 1 although pob is dittoed as Roscommon Ireland
may just be a coincidence but mother & sisters named Bridget & Mary & brother Patrick  :-\

1871 RG10; Piece: 4138; Folio: 87; Page: 8
Newhallbey Bridge Lancashire
Michael Sloman 38 Roscommon Ireland Labourer
Bridget 46
Patrick 14 Cotton operative
Thomas 8
Mary 13 Cotton spinner
Bridget 10 “         “
KATE 1 (1870)
Everyone apart from Michael has been dittoed as born Ireland Roscommon

 

Certainly another one to consider, though I'd think Sloman would be a less likely spelling of Slyman.  Sleaman and Slyman could be pronounced the same, but I don't see it with Sloman.  Still, you never know.  Best to take a look.

The names are all so common.  Sometimes it feels like my entire family tree is made up of five or six names.

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Lancashire / Re: Can't find a trace of a marriage
« on: Friday 13 July 12 10:25 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Friday 13 July 12 09:16 BST (UK)
Sorry can't help with the marriage of James Sleaman & Johanna (Anne)

Do you have a marriage for your great-great-grandmother Kate Slyman?

Looking at the 1871 census you mention with James , Johannah, Mary & Catherine Sleaman RG10; Piece: 3771; Folio: 26; Page: 45 there’s also a lodger in the same Butler household named Edward Troy 21 (1850) Ireland Labourer
Could be Johannah’s brother

Great stuff, thank you.  When I first viewed that census record, I hadn't yet known of the surname Troy and it hadn't occurred to me to look at the other members of that household since.  We should call you Ladyhawk-eye.

I have a RC church record for the marriage of Kate Slyman in 1903 in Co. Mayo.  For reasons unknown, there is no civil record.  I checked with the GRO on that because I had the date and district and everything, and they said they checked the original registers and didn't have the record.  Seems to be a trend with this family...

In the 1901 Irish census, Kate Slyman was living with her cousin Thomas Concannon in Mayo (written "Slymon").  In 1911, she is Kate Corcoran and has three kids with her husband Michael (DED of Kilcommon, townland of Annefield).  Thomas Concannon is living with her in 1911.  The 1911 census gives her birthplace as Liverpool and family sources told me she was from England.

So, really, my primary objective at this point is to somehow connect the Kate Slyman in Mayo, Ireland in 1901 with the Kate Slyman who was born to James and Anne/Johannah in Liverpool.  The original hope was that Anne's maiden name would be Concannon, how nice would that have been?  But Troy is completely new to me.

Other than Concannon, the only other surnames I have associated with Kate Slyman are Mullahy and Nolan, who were sponsors at the baptisms of her children.

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Lancashire / Re: Can't find a trace of a marriage
« on: Friday 13 July 12 07:56 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: garstonite on Friday 13 July 12 07:45 BST (UK)
1861 census
2 Howard street
Liverpool
ANNIE TROY aged 14 born 1847 Ireland .
checking freebmd for ANNIE and not Anne

1868 marriage in Northern Ireland was
www.familysearch.org
james slyman
marriage
northern Ireland
spouse Anne Troy
search
regards
allan...
I suppose that they could have come to Liverpool ...had Mary ...gone back to Northern Ireland to marry and then came back to Liverpool after the marriage ..many Irish girls came to Liverpool to have their babies ....so they wouldn`t shame their parents....in fact ...they still do ...have you found a Liverpool birth for Mary Slyman in 1867 ?...or...is she Mary Troy ??

I was just thinking that the census could easily be wrong and Mary could be two instead of three in 1871.  I tend to view all info on census forms as suspect anyway.

I'm not seeing the marriage.  I see a James Slamen in 1868 in Maghera, Derry, but it's to a Catherine McTamny.

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Lancashire / Re: Can't find a trace of a marriage
« on: Friday 13 July 12 07:38 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: garstonite on Friday 13 July 12 07:28 BST (UK)
searched England / Ireland / Scotland /Northern Ireland

1868 in Northern Ireland there is a James Sleman to Ann ???...but no surname for Ann ....and if Mary is born 1867 Liverpool , - a marriage in N.I. seems unlikely a year after ....
on the 1901 census aged 34 she is down as MARY J SLYMAN - daughter in St Columbo parish Liverpool.....  don`t know what the J stands for ?

1867 june qtr James Slimond marriage - but not to an Anne
Sarah Lloyd or Jane Davies in Liverpool
so
sorry - had a real good look , but can`t find that marriage of
James Slyman to Anne Troy
for the record there is a James Slyman aged 16 b Liverpool in the 1891 census in St Martin in the Fields parish - so b 1874/75....could be a sibling of Mary and Catherine ?
he is in an Institution

allan

Thanks for checking.  Always good to have another pair of eyes to make sure nothing obvious was missed.

Where did you find the 1868 marriage listed?  I don't think I came across that one.  Worth checking out.

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Lancashire / Re: Can't find a trace of a marriage
« on: Friday 13 July 12 07:09 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: garstonite on Friday 13 July 12 07:00 BST (UK)
www.freebmd.org.uk has
Dec Qtr 1870  Catherine Slyman   Liverpool

this would suggest born oct / nov /dec birth - but if she was born the last week in September , she could have been registered Dec Qtr ....
checked lan-opc and for Slyman - Slimond is also listed , going to check now for a James Slyman / Sleman / Sleaman / Slimond marriage
allan

This is the cert I have.  She was born in September, registered in October.  Sorry, should have mentioned that.

She was actually born on Sept. 8 and not registered until Oct. 14.

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