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Cumberland / Re: Confused about this 1861 census Cumberland place name
« on: Friday 16 August 24 22:05 BST (UK)  »
That's a brilliant find^ and looks very very plausible doesn't it?^  Thank you^^ :)

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Cumberland / Re: Confused about this 1861 census Cumberland place name
« on: Friday 16 August 24 19:33 BST (UK)  »
(Alan posted while I was typing, but I'll post this anyway.)

With a name to search with I've found him in the 1851 census, and I think the 1861 probably does say 'Home' - but that's not exactly what it means.

The 1851 census gives his birthplace as "Cumberland Abby", and putting the two together I've come up with Holm Cultram, which is also known as Abbey Holme; and the ancient abbey (now the parish church) is dedicated to St Mary.

Thank you^ That's super helpful :D

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Cumberland / Re: Confused about this 1861 census Cumberland place name
« on: Friday 16 August 24 19:32 BST (UK)  »
On the 1847 tithe map of the parish of Holme Cultram the village in the vicinity of St Mary’s Church is simply labelled “Abbey” (i.e. not Abbey Town (Victorian OS maps) or Abbeytown (modern name).

Thank you (for both messages^^) that's super helpful and also confirming the names of places we weren't completely sure about. 

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Cumberland / Re: Confused about this 1861 census Cumberland place name
« on: Friday 16 August 24 18:43 BST (UK)  »
'Home' could be better than 'Horns' but may still be an abbreviation since the enumerater is already out of space. Jennifer are there other examples on the page of a final 'e' by that enumerator to compare it with?
What have Ancestry and FindMyPast transcribed it as?

The final letter has the look of a 'g' about it, but I'm not sure if that's me reaching for something familiar.
It's transcribed as St Marys Horng.



RG 9/3707/33 p 1

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Cumberland / Re: Confused about this 1861 census Cumberland place name
« on: Friday 16 August 24 18:35 BST (UK)  »
Bit of a long shot – in ~1871 there are newspaper reports of the establishment, in Carlisle, of St Mary’s Home for Penitent Women. (St Mary’s is a Carlisle parish I believe).  Perhaps your dates will rule this out?

And clearly this would be an odd place of birth to declare in a census.

We were thinking it could be something like that (although there is nothing elsewhere to suggest it^) but also agree... it's odd to use this on a census  :)

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Cumberland / Re: Confused about this 1861 census Cumberland place name
« on: Friday 16 August 24 07:58 BST (UK)  »
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Cumberland / Re: Confused about this 1861 census Cumberland place name
« on: Thursday 15 August 24 22:59 BST (UK)  »
Oh thank you for offering that, but I am fortunately able to search myself in records and registers…I’m just not sure what this specific place name might be and so it would help narrow my search down

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Cumberland / Re: Confused about this 1861 census Cumberland place name
« on: Thursday 15 August 24 21:33 BST (UK)  »
That's what I thought too, I can't figure out what the final word is^ ???

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Cumberland / Confused about this 1861 census Cumberland place name
« on: Thursday 15 August 24 20:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

This place name is in the 1861 census.  We know he lived around Irthington, but can't find his 1791 baptism yet..mostly because it's not clear where he is from.
Does this place name ring any bells with anyone?

thanks^
Jen

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