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I am waiting on the death cert for Ann, fingers crossed it is the Ann I am hoping for.

Fingers crossed here too 

Thanks for the PM Shelley... & Woodlawn, email's on the way 

Thanks Radcliff, that's an outside the square one

I hadn't gone that far out of town... not being familiar with the geography, I have wondered what how far out of Manchester to search.

In 1881 the eldest Child is down as William Hibbert aged 22 a coal miner,

Looks like that William kept the Hibbert name:
Name: William Hibbert
Age:    28
Rank or Profession: Collier
Marriage Date: 13 Jul 1887
Parish: Westhoughton, St Bartholomew
Father's Name: Peter Hibbert
Spouse's Name: Betty Woodward

William & Betty Hibbert are on the next three censuses in Westhoughton (birthplace and ages all tally).

Ah, the quest continues...

Thanks heatherjulie

I've tried to work out if any family link exists with the marriage witnesses.  The only (tenuous, LOL) link I could find was that a witness to the Hudson's marriage was "Joseph Ogden Allen"... and one of the possibilities for William's mother is Martha (nee Ogden).

I'll go back to it and have another look, just in case...

Hello Lancashire Rootschatters

My first post here... I'm having some difficulty tracing the parents of my 2x Great Grandfather, William Henry Lee, born in Manchester c.1859.

I'd really appreciate any assistance or suggestions... or some fresh eyes 

The first real evidence I have of his existence is on his 1883 marriage certificate... prior to that, there's many a William Lee to choose from, with none leaping out as the right one.

I've gathered a fair amount of info from his marriage, until his death in 1944.  Here's what I know...

Marriage: 
St. Andrew, Ancoats
1 September 1883
William Henry Lee to Sarah Ann Addy
Age: 24
Condition: Bachelor
Rank or Profession: Sawyer
Residence: 31 Kirk Street  Junction Street  Every Street (3 streets written as a list on the cert)
Father: William Henry Lee (deceased)
Rank or Profession of Father:  Boiler maker
Witnesses:  Henry & Emily Hudson

They lived in Ancoats for a good while:
1891 Census:  37 Congou Street (age 31 – b. Manchester)
1901 Census:  12 Caledon Street (age 41 – b. Manchester)
1911 Census:  11 Brown Street (age 51 – b. Manchester)

Children:
(Baptised St Andrew, Ancoats)
1884 George
1886 William Henry
1888 James
1890 Hannah
1892 Mary
(Baptised All Souls, Ancoats)
1894 Samuel
1896 Daniel
1898 Sarah Ann & Bella (twins)
1900 Arthur
1905 Joseph

Death Certificate:
9 February 1944
3 St Oswald’s Road, Levenshulme M.D.
William Henry Lee
84 years
Retired Storekeeper – Railway

Buried Southern Cemetery – grave 1286 - with wife Sarah Ann & daughter + son-in-law

But, I'm no wiser on his birth.  Are there any docs that a birth date, or mother's maiden name would appear on?  We're spoiled in Australia, with marriage & death certificates recording mother's details.

Tallying all the dates, I've been concentrating on births between April 1859 and February 1860 (but also searching a couple of years each side).  I've purchased 3 birth certificates, and discounted one.

Not this William (he's still living with parents on 1891 census and beyond)
1 August 1859
William Lee
Duke Street
To William and Lucy (nee Massey) Lee
Father’s Occupation: Overlooker in a silk mill

Maybe this William (Mum's a widow in 1881... but there's a 'Newton Heath' born William in later censuses that fits better)
22 June 1859
William Lee
Church Street, Newton
To William and Martha (nee Ogden) Lee
Father’s Occupation: Labourer at Starch Works

Maybe... but I can't find any further info on this William:
2 November 1859
William Lee
Workhouse, Newbridge Street
To Elizabeth Lee

There's a William Lee in the 1881 census, with parents recorded as William & Isabella (but father is recorded as "Joseph Lee" in previous censuses).  No trace of either in later censuses - younger children living with uncle in 1891.

Apologies for the ginormous post - I wanted to get all the facts in - and thanks for getting this far down the page

Emma

P.S. The Lee family is one of 21 direct line Lancashire surnames (courtesy of 2 sets of Great Grandparents immigrating to Oz) that I've been researching, but they have given me the most grief, LOL.