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Hi Janan,

Currently going alphabetically through the 1921 census for my lot and have reached, no speedy Gonzales me, B for Bowler (!)

Having very little success in tracking down (and not for the first time!) Isabella M (b 1883, Caterham) but I did notice a JOHN BOWLER, b Elstow, aged 60y 10m on the 1921c and am wondering if he is actually Isabella's father John William, also b Elstow around 1858.   The 1921 location is Portobello Road, Kensington and Theresa his stated wife is from the West Indies which is provocative.   I currently have no death for JOHN WILLIAM BOWLER.

Hope this makes sense.

Any steers on Isabella and John William gratefully received.

Thanks,

Neil (Easby)

Hi Y'all,

Yes - I am still around, albeit brought back here through my first RC notification received for some time.

If anyone wishes to ask a specific question of me, ask away - (any earlier ones submitted passed me by, alas)

I will shortly post a general summary of what my DNA testing has come with up (of the Ancestry.com variety).

Cheers,

Neil (Easby).

Y'all,

Can't wait for the Southill mob account!   Put me down for a copy.

I have notes for John Carver b Hitchin St Mary, 2 Dec 1762; but it is so long since I was last this way, it would take me a while to get my head round them.  For what they are worth, you are welcome to them.  It may even be, of course, that I sourced the information originally from you.

"Note:  There are Wesleyan burials at Stepney for:

Thomas Carver - b. abt 1759; bur. 29 Nov 1829. (Green Street)
John Carver - b. abt 1763; bur. 1 Jan 1836.
Elizabeth Carver - b. abt 1765; bur 20 Jul 1825.
Buried at Globe Fields Burial Grounds (now Whitechapel)

Only Mary missing - suspect she either died young or married.  Looks like family moved to Stepney.

Note: As at Nov 2015 can not find where DoB came from."

Cheers.

Neil (Easby)

Hi all,

I have a possible lead for one of my long-time not founds and hope somebody might be able to confirm it somehow or, at least, disabuse me of the notion.

It concerns MINNIE CARVER (my 1st cousin 2 times removed) who was born q3, 1886, in Wakefield.  She was the daughter of GEORGE CARVER (1856-1926) & PHOEBE PRATT (1859-1912) and the last record I have of her is via the 1901c.  I can not locate her on the 1911c.

My lead is that Minnie married a FRANCIS KENYON DOLLMAN at St Pancras, 1918.  The Minnie Dollman who appears on the 1939c with Francis has a DoB of 27th July 1886 - spot on the right quarter for our Minnie methinks.  They appear to have had a son, STANLEY H F DOLLMAN.  Minnie died in June 1943 at St Pancras with a stated DoB of abt 1887.

Can anyone help verify 'our' Minnie Carver becomes this Minnie Dollman or already knows this?

Cheers.

Neil (Easby)

The youngest of the three, Nellie, I believe returned to England in November, 1914.   

There are a couple of transatlantic crossings made by a Nellie Carver of the right age in 1909 and 1910.   She appears to have been ‘a domestic’ and I believe this is what a lot of British Home girls were trained to do.  Perhaps she was assisting other groups and/or grown-ups in their travels?

The Nellie Carver who arrives in England at the outbreak of the first world war, aged 18, states her last permanent home was in Canada and goes on to indicate her future permanent home was to be in England.  This fits neatly for our 'domestic' Nellie.  Additional weight is placed on this assertion by whom her brother, Arthur, nominated as ‘next-of-kin’ when joining-up in 1916. He nominated the soon-to-be married Rose Carver, of Windsor Hotel, Cornwall, Ontario - and not Nellie.

After 1914, the trail for Nellie for me goes cold – can anyone help?   Ironically, there is a photograph surviving of Nellie alone when in Canada.

If Nellie died unmarried in the U.K., I can not find her.  If she married in the U.K., there are several possible liaisons.     If Nellie did remain/return to Canada, then the only lead I have is a reference to a Nellie Carver in the obituary of Esdras Pariseau in 1978, which states a 'Nellie Carver' as his wife.  He died in Hull, Quebec.   Feel free to pontificate or point out errors or impertinent presumptions made along the way.

Cheers,

Neil [Easby]

1
William Arthur CARVER b: 17 Sep 1867 in Cockayne Hatley, BDF, d: 02 Oct 1902 in Leicester, LEI
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Kate BURKE b: 1869 in Ireland, m: 09 Nov 1890 in Hunslet, WRY, d: 17 Jul 1907 in Menston, WRY

2...Nellie CARVER b: Jun 1896 in Hunslet, WRY

2...Frank CARVER b: Oct 1898 in Leeds, WRY, d: Oct 1898 in Bramley, WRY

2...Gertrude CARVER b: Jan 1901 in Hunslet, WRY, d: Oct 1901 in Hunslet, WRY