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Thanks Dave.
The informant in Catherine's case (d. 1880) was her husband, George De W..
The informant in George's case (d. 1885) was daughter Elizabeth Catherine. She was always close with her parents, as was Rebecca another daughter who was my GGrandmother. We have nothing from anything they wrote or kept which indicates who George and Catherine's parents, other ancestors, or siblings were.
There was a Will for George, and it was proved by Elizabeth, but I don't know its contents, and if it had mentioned parents of either George or Catherine my brother would have known and told me, as he has helped me with everything he can. Back in 2004 he was researching the family in depth, and has never come upon anything in that vein.
George and Catherine both trained with the Society for Promoting the Education of the Poor in Ireland (otherwise known as The Kildare Place Society). From the publications of the Society's records (the couple of years' worth I found on the Net), C. was already teaching in 1826 an G. began teaching in 1827 aged 18 (the minimum allowable age). This was a new and innovative movement, and the reason they were teaching in those small parochial schools. (The Model Schools where the training occurred in Dublin, though originally catering for both R.C. and C. of I. schools, evolved eventually into the C. of I.'s T.TrainingCollege.) I contacted the C. of I. Training College by e-mail and was told they don't have a genealogist who can search their records for any hint of parentage/origins of their teachers back then. (Incidentally, several of their daughters and one son were teachers, and Rebecca married John [Lindsay] Johnston/e, another teacher who later worked for the educator and philanthropist Vere Henry Lewis Foster. Anyway, the daughters and the 2 sons did not leave us anything that indicates who the antecedents Veitch and [de] Winter were, and neither did our Grandfather.
The Fenagh search is a good idea for the future, but first i was thinking of trying to make some sense of what is available on Veitchs. (For all i know, George might even have been born outside of Ireland — the family were very keen on French and at least one of the daughters studied German as well, and my grandfather and one of his brothers joined the London Huguenot Society as apparently there was supposed to be a connection through the De Winters; not sure whether this was totally reliable or not.)