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Armagh / Re: Pentland - Uprichard, Gibson, Morrow. Ballyworkan.
« on: Saturday 09 June 12 11:24 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Roxanne and thanks Kiap and also to Worldlywanderer for his/her intervention; I'm much clearer now on how this information is sourced. It must be hugely difficult to research family in the British Isles from the other side of the world, I know it can be hard enough in the  UK!

From what I have seen so far Richard is quite an unusual name in the Pentland family. Since the practise back then was to name children after older relatives is there not some mileage in checking out the Richards in the various parishes and trying to identify how they are related?

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Armagh / Re: Pentland - Uprichard, Gibson, Morrow. Ballyworkan.
« on: Monday 04 June 12 11:20 BST (UK)  »
the W. H. who died in 1916 is surely the son of George Pentland and Ann O'Hara.

In another site there is a marker for Ann Pentland died 1876 age 45 and George her husband who died at Ballylisk in 1873 at 64 and son W.H. who died in in action in 1916 at age 45 (also names of Whiteside & Redpath).

that said I am puzzled by the second post which appears to suggest there was a second William Henry who died in action during 1916, mother Ann Miller. The problem with this is that the CWGC site has only one W. H. Pentland who died in 1916 - can anyone explain this apparent discrepancy?

Trying to trace the parents of a John Pentland, father James, who married an Anne Pentland in 1886. Both bride and groom came from Drumnakelly in Co. Armagh so rather presume that they were cousins.

One of the witnesses at the wedding was a Thomas George Pentland and as his father was called James, presume that he was John’s brother.

John Pentland was a soldier so perhaps it is not surprising that I can find no trace of him or his family in the census of 1901 and 1911. He may well have been stationed abroad.

Ann’s father was called George and I thought perhaps that she was the child of a George Pentland married to an Anne Miller in 1852, Mullavilly in County Armagh.

Another Pentland soldier also had a father called George, mother also called Ann.
Although his death at the age of 45 in 1916 (see below) would rather indicate that he was a son of George and Ann O’Hara because there is a record of them having a son called William who was born in 1871.


See this  record, 

“Private William Henry Pentland (Married Mary Anne Whitten, (see Carrowbrack 1911 Irish census) 17982, 9th Bn., Royal Irish Fusiliers, who was killed in action during an attack on the village of Beaumont-Hamel on 1 July 1916, aged 45, on the opening day of the Battle of the Somme.  He was born in Aldershot, Hants, the son of George and Ann Pentland, Ballylisk, and he lived at Mary Street, Portadown.
He is buried in Ancre British Cemetery, Beaumont-Hamel, the Somme, and his name is remembered on a headstone in Mullavilly Parish Churchyard, and on the Portadown War Memorial and on the Tandragee War Memorial.”

Rather interesdingly if you search the 1881 census for England you will find more than one Irish born Pentland who had military connections.


If there was only one W. H. Pentland does that mean the other marker mentioned above is the grave of George Pentland and Ann O'Hara?

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Armagh / Re: Pentland - Uprichard, Gibson, Morrow. Ballyworkan.
« on: Monday 04 June 12 11:08 BST (UK)  »
... Also in between there is a floral urn for Frederick in memoriam, but no dates...

In the time which has passed since this post has anyone identifed which of the two flanking plots relatesvto this urn?

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