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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry Update 2025
« on: Tuesday 23 September 25 20:18 BST (UK)  »
I don't see any date for this update coming out.  Someone said October but I don't see that on Ancestry's website.  Has anyone here been updated yet?

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry DNA...no longer a match?
« on: Monday 15 September 25 16:21 BST (UK)  »
Have you tested it recently, cockney rebel? I just did on an account I have access to, by choosing custom range 6-8cM. It returned about 170 pages of results (20 to a page). Viewing the last of those pages, nothing below 8cM was displayed.
This is a good suggestion on how to check, Scotmom. I do have ancestry pro and just tried your suggestion of searching between six and eight cM only. I had a lot of hits and a number I had previously identified as helpful.
This is not an advertisement for Ancestry pro! They just found another way to monetize previously included information in any subscription. Everyone has to decide whether or not it is worth it to them for the extra money.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry DNA...no longer a match?
« on: Monday 15 September 25 14:31 BST (UK)  »
ANCESTRY discontinued showing matches under 8 cM some years ago unless you had put a note in like, “ possible Smith match” or whatever. The ANCESTRY PRO shows matches down to 6 cM.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry DNA...no longer a match?
« on: Monday 15 September 25 04:13 BST (UK)  »
Do you subscribe to ANCESTRY PRO? It cost more money, of course, but it shows lower cM matches. If you don’t subscribe, you might look for a special offer someday and give that a try. If this person and you share under 20 cM, it will show the match on ANCESTRY Pro DNA, but not necessarily on regular ancestry DNA. 

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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Re: Why leave one child behind?
« on: Monday 25 August 25 16:19 BST (UK)  »
The "child left behind" phenomenon is not rare and occurs in many cultures.  I found an example in my own family where mid-19c Irish ancestors left their oldest son, about age eight.  Within ten years, he joined his family in New York  William Bradford, a founder of New England, left his three-year-old son behind. He also joined the family years later.  It is not difficult to find examples when you start looking.

There are multiple reasons for this seemingly strange behavior.  The child was ill or frail can be one but I suspect that it was even more common to leave one child to help the old folks until they died.  As the family in the new country became established and more children were born, the child left behind became increasingly isolated or even alienated from his/her parents and siblings. 

The grandfather (Irish) of a close friend was a child left behind.  His parents and siblings went to Australia.  He never heard from them and understandably became very bitter.  As a young man, his uncle in America sent him a ticket and got him a job.  He never forgave his parents.  Only when Australian cousins contacted my friend after genealogical research, did she learn that the parents had sent tickets and money numerous times but the grandparents in Ireland never told him.  They didn't want him to go.  He went to his grave without ever learning the truth.

A good account of one Irish woman's experience as a child left behind is in the book "Staking Her Claim, Life of Belinda Mulrooney" by Melanie Mayer and Robert DeArmond.  Belinda was a fascinating Irish woman who eventually made and lost several fortunes in the Alaska Gold Rush of the 1890s.  The earlier part of the book tells of her experience as "a child left behind".  It was, as you might imagine, not easy.

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Cork / Re: Castletownroche--What is Inches?
« on: Thursday 31 October 24 20:03 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much, Frances. I appreciate the help.

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Cork / Re: Castletownroche--What is Inches?
« on: Wednesday 30 October 24 12:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for that great information, Frances.  They certainly look like relatives.

The best I can do on where the Quinlans lived was in nearby Kilcummer.  At the 1831 marriage of Patrick Quinlan and Margaret Gorman, the witnesses were David Hennessy and Johanna Hanlon.  David Hennessy married a Margaret Quinlan on 12 February 1829 in the parish of Annakissy.  This couple also immigrated to New York City and remained very close to the Quinlan-Gorman family there.  Margaret Quinlan Hennessy's obit in the NY Herald says she was from 'Kilcoorner', a misspelling of Kilcummer.  Kilcummer is 'an ancient parish now part of Castletownroche', according to Grove White.  So this indicates the Quinlans were from the same close area as the Gormans.  Again, thank you.

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Cork / Re: Castletownroche--What is Inches?
« on: Tuesday 29 October 24 18:37 GMT (UK)  »
 Alison did the children of Patrick Quinlan & Mgt Gorman remain in Ireland
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No, they did not.  The entire family emigrated in three separate voyages. I assume they didn't have the money for all to travel at once.  Patrick Quinlan in 1849, his wife Margaret Gorman Quinlan with their oldest son, John, age 11, in 1850, and teen-age Ellen with the three youngest children, Mary, James (my great-grandfather), and Thomas (second of the name) in 1851. Little Thomas Quinlan did not survive the voyage, alas.
Ellen also had charge of at least one young cousin, Denis Creeden. Denis' parents were Daniel Creeden and Mary Gorman Creeden, sister of Margaret Gorman Quinlan. The Creedens emigrated about the same time with their oldest son Patrick and baby John.
But it's possible, even likely, that Patrick Quinlan and wife Mary Gorman had siblings and/or cousins who remained in Castletownroche and nearby.
Thank you for the reply, ballydw.

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Cork / Re: Castletownroche--What is Inches?
« on: Tuesday 29 October 24 03:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks so much for that. Very interesting. I wish I were there to chat with him. Our elders are often a font of knowledge found nowhere else. It would be great if I still had cousins there.

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