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Sussex / Re: BOORER - BORER One name study.
« on: Tuesday 16 July 13 09:10 BST (UK)  »
Tabitha if you are still active on this list I would very much like to make contact.  I have valuable information on another of the late James Ellis' great interests - his wife's grandfather from Australia (messages from 2003 and earlier have been found on various messageboards).  If his wife is still living, it would be wonderful to be able to pass that information to her.   GlenRuth

Hello, I dont know if you heard but James Ellis sadly died a while  ago  and I have registered for the one name Boorer and variants study at the request of his widow. Ive been trying to reconstruct the trees that people kindly have let me have details of.  I can tell you more offline about what happened go to the ONS and you will see you can email me from there if you wish. Thanks


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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Tuesday 29 May 12 03:42 BST (UK)  »
Wow Lyn, that's a whole lot of information - thank you! 

I have discovered that contributors to RootsChat can send Personal Messages to one another once they have posted three messages - I sent you a PM yesterday, hopefully you will be able to pick that up somehow and can make contact with me direct (I'm new to this list so don't quite know how it all works).

You have been able to pick up quite a bit about the convict Joseph Hutton from various sources, and I'm sure that will help you link him to your own family (his son Joseph who married Mary Ann Owens).  I will explain my links to the two contributors you mention when we are able to touch base.

Because the same names are used down the generations it gets confusing, but the Cornelius Hutton who married Louisa Dezius is my Cornelius born 1855 (i.e. son of the convict Joseph) rather than Cornelius born 1894, brother of your Annie. 

I've researched your Cornelius - he married in Queensland and died there:

CORNELIUS HUTTON
Birth:  16948/1894   HUTTON   CORNELIUS  JOSEPH  MARY A   INVERELL
Qld Marriage:  1913/C4087   Kuhn   Evie Rebecca   Hutton   Cornelius
Qld Death:  1960/C800   Cornelius   Hutton   Joseph   Mary Ann Owens

Cornelius' WWII service record is available on the National Library website.

Below is a summary of what I've found on Annie's other siblings:

ELIZABETH MARGARET ELLEN HUTTON
Elizabeth did marry George Klenhauss or Kleinhanss:

9330/1902   KLEINHAUSS  GEORGE M   HUTTON   ELIZABETH M E   INVERELL

JOSEPH HUTTON
Birth:  19841/1885  HUTTON  JOSEPH  JOSEPH  MARY A  GLEN INNES
Marriage:   8031/1908   HUTTON   JOSEPH   MILLER  AGNES C   INVERELL

Death:    5211/1928   HUTTON   JOSEPH   JOSEPH   MARY A  CESSNOCK
Death:   47180/1973   HUTTON   AGNES CONSTANCE   JOHN   MARY   CESSNOCK

Newcastle Crematorium:
HUTTON Agnes Constance 16/03/1973 1 Bent St Cessnock 87 SCATTERED 47151

MARY A HUTTON
Mary is a bit of a mystery - as you have found.  Further work required.

EDWARD HUTTON
Birth:  36763/1892   HUTTON   EDWARD  JOSEPH  MARY A  WARIALDA
Qld Marriage:  1920/C2912   Pfingst   Annie Catherine Elizabeth   Hutton   Edward
Qld Death:  1963/B61526   Edward   Hutton   Joseph   Mary Ann Owens

Qld Births for Annie Catherine Pfingst (most likely 1898??)
1898/C3179   Annie Katherine Elizabeth   Pfingst   Charles   Annie Heironymus
1900/C3257   Annie Kathleen Elizabeth   Pfingst   Albert   Amy Tyrrell

BDM records for Queensland don't cover the same years as NSW unfortunately but they are brilliant because they provide the mother's maiden name which is just so helpful.

Edward Hutton served in WWI - his service record is available on the National Library website.  The index shows he was from Grafton which is confusing, on the first page of the records it shows that this Grafton is/was near Inverell.

MABEL ETHEL AGNES HUTTON
Birth:  16947/1894   HUTTON   MABEL E A  JOSEPH  MARY A   INVERELL
Marriage:   9431/1921  O'TOOLE   TERENCE   HUTTON   MABEL E A  KURRI KURRI
Death:   2491/1931   O'TOOLE   MABEL A   JOSEPH   MARY A      CESSNOCK

Cessnock Cemetery
O'TOOLE Mabel 20-Mar-31  Nulkaba Cemetery

Ancestry - Electoral Roll
Name:    Mabel Ethel Agnes O'Toole
Residence:    1930 - city, Hunter, New South Wales

As you can see, some of the family gravitated to Queensland and some to the Hunter Valley area - presumably for work (it would have been easy for them to go from the New England to the Newcastle area by train).  A check of the Electoral Rolls will show what they all did for a living.   

Hopefully there is something new for you in what I've found about your line.

I haven't seen the reference to a letter from Private J Hutton - there are other Huttons in the New England area so he may be from those families.

As for Mary Whelan's death - their little daughter Mary died earlier the same year (1865), baby James died 2nd October and poor Mary died 4th October (premature delivery).

GlenRuth



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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Monday 28 May 12 05:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynette

Thanks for the information, particularly the marriage detail for Joseph Hutton and Mary Ann Owens which is great to have, also the Owens births from Bathurst.  You have to wonder what brought them to the Walcha area. 

I haven't delved into the Hutton tree for quite a while but my interest was raised a couple of weeks ago when I came across something on your line.  If I'm able to make contact with you direct I'm sure you would be interested.  If you have a tree on Ancestry and you can provide me the name of that tree, I'll have someone send you a message with my contact details.

I mentioned earlier that Annie's father Joseph Hutton was the son of Joseph Hutton (a convict from Exeter in Devon) and his wife Mary Whelan.  Their children were:

Elizabeth Hutton 1852 Warialda
Joseph Hutton 1853 Maitland (married Mary Ann Owens)
Cornelius Hutton 1855 Tamworth (my great-grandfather)
Henry Hutton 1857 Swamp Oak Creek near Limbri (Moonbi area)
George Hutton 1859 Mooonbi
Edward Hutton 1861 Swamp Oak Creek
Mary Ann Hutton 1864 Mihi Creek near Armidale
James Hutton 1865-1865 Saumarez Creek near Uralla

Mary Whelan died after the birth of James, in 1865.  Joseph (the convict) married for the second time in 1868, his wife was a widow named Ellen Campbell, and he died in 1877.

Your Annie (Rolfe) had a brother Cornelius, who was no doubt named after his Uncle Cornelius (my great-grandfather).

I wonder if you have researched Annie Rolfe's siblings at all and if you have done any research on the Huttons further back.

GlenRuth
 




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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Saturday 26 May 12 15:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lynette

Thanks for your response.  I am descended from Cornelius Hutton and his wife Louisa Dezius.  Cornelius was another son of Joseph Hutton the convict and therefore an uncle to your Annie Hutton who married Joseph George Rolfe (was he known as George??). 

We are definitely linked, and I would be greatly interested in anything you can offer on Annie and her family in particular.  I've picked up that there are some photos of Annie held by you and other contributors to this discussion an I would love to see them if at all possible.  Unfortunately I'm not a full member of Ancestry and can only save anything attached to public trees as tiny images (I only get to see a very brief summary of the detail).

Your Annie's parents were Joseph Hutton and Mary Ann Owens -

Joseph's birth was registered at East Maitland (Roman Catholic) in 1853 (son of Joseph and Mary Hutton)
Joseph married Mary Ann Owens at Walcha in 1881
Joseph (son of Joseph and Mary A) died at Tingha in 1930

I haven't been able to identify Mary Ann Owens' birth, or her death.

Joseph and Mary Ann Hutton's children were:

* Annie 1882
* Elizabeth Margaret Ellen 1884
* Joseph 1885
* Mary A  1891
* Edward  1892
* Cornelius  1894
* Mabel Ethel Agnes  1894
 (possibly twins in 1894 - or just two registered at the same time)

Hoping we can help each other with our research.

GlenRuth
 

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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Saturday 26 May 12 03:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi to Lynette and all the others interested in the Hutton/Rolfe line.

My interest is the Huttons and I've just begun researching the Hutton/Rolfe line.  I've been very interested to read the posts about this family on RootsChat.

Ann Hutton was definitely the daughter of Joseph Hutton and Mary Ann Owens, and she was born in Walcha NSW in 1882.  Ann's death was registered in Queensland in 1955 - she died in the Brisbane General Hospital but is buried in the East Lismore Cemetery, NSW where her husband Joseph George Rolfe is also buried (see references to their deaths on the Ryerson Index).

Ann Hutton's grandparents were Joseph Hutton and Mary (nee Whelan).  Joseph Hutton was a convict from Exeter in Devon - his convict documents are available through Ancestry.

GlenRuth

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