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Lancashire / Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« on: Thursday 12 June 25 09:42 BST (UK) »
Nothing ventured - nothing gained, Milliepede!
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Lancashire / Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« on: Wednesday 11 June 25 18:47 BST (UK) »
Milliepede - you need to put your query on Rootschat.
You never know Willsy may see it!! (No pressure Willsy!!)
You never know Willsy may see it!! (No pressure Willsy!!)
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Lancashire / Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« on: Wednesday 11 June 25 09:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you Milliepede and for the time and interest you took in trying to help with this mysterious lady.
She was a tough cookie - 3 marriages - lost 2 husbands very young and separated from her 3rd! Yet made it to 87.
She was a tough cookie - 3 marriages - lost 2 husbands very young and separated from her 3rd! Yet made it to 87.
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Lancashire / Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« on: Tuesday 10 June 25 21:03 BST (UK) »
Not as pleased as I was, Willsy!
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Lancashire / Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« on: Tuesday 10 June 25 14:59 BST (UK) »
Willsy!!!
You absolute star! I ordered the digital copy of the death you found in Oldham and it WAS the correct Elizabeth Holt. She was described as the widow of James Holt (correct!)
In addition, the death was registered by her son in law, Abraham James - who was living with Elizabeth's family in 1841 AND married Elizabeth's daughter, Margaret Whalley that same year.
Also - Abraham James and wife, Margaret, were witnesses when Elizabeth married James Holt in 1844.
I cannot thank you enough - it's been driving me crackers (it didn't have far to go!!) - and whilst I hadn't held out much hope that she would have died in Oldham - I thought it worth checking.
Let joy be unconfined! Thank you SO very much for your time and your help.
You absolute star! I ordered the digital copy of the death you found in Oldham and it WAS the correct Elizabeth Holt. She was described as the widow of James Holt (correct!)
In addition, the death was registered by her son in law, Abraham James - who was living with Elizabeth's family in 1841 AND married Elizabeth's daughter, Margaret Whalley that same year.
Also - Abraham James and wife, Margaret, were witnesses when Elizabeth married James Holt in 1844.
I cannot thank you enough - it's been driving me crackers (it didn't have far to go!!) - and whilst I hadn't held out much hope that she would have died in Oldham - I thought it worth checking.
Let joy be unconfined! Thank you SO very much for your time and your help.
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Lancashire / Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« on: Monday 09 June 25 18:06 BST (UK) »
Yes - I searched Whalley Square in 1881 and she wasn't anywhere on it. She is still a flippin' mystery.
Prior to living on Whalley Square - she had been on Bridge Lane and Marsh Lane, which both ran along the bottom of that Square.
Hence she had been in that area for decades.
Willsy - that article about the stolen sheet was pretty amazing. The thief of that sheet was given 7 years penal servitude!!
Prior to living on Whalley Square - she had been on Bridge Lane and Marsh Lane, which both ran along the bottom of that Square.
Hence she had been in that area for decades.
Willsy - that article about the stolen sheet was pretty amazing. The thief of that sheet was given 7 years penal servitude!!
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Lancashire / Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« on: Monday 09 June 25 07:13 BST (UK) »
Oh thank you SO much.
Milliepede - yes - it was Abraham Parker I followed back to Elizabeth. He ended up in the Workhouse and died in the Asylum. This family have been so difficult from my friend's grandmother backwards.
(I remember my Mum having a Mangle when I was a child. How times have changed.)
Willsy - great find about the newspaper article!! I am so grateful.
Milliepede - yes - it was Abraham Parker I followed back to Elizabeth. He ended up in the Workhouse and died in the Asylum. This family have been so difficult from my friend's grandmother backwards.
(I remember my Mum having a Mangle when I was a child. How times have changed.)
Willsy - great find about the newspaper article!! I am so grateful.
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Lancashire / Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:36 BST (UK) »
Yes. I agree - I had thought that she may be living with one of her children.
To be honest, I hadn't wanted to face that - she had 4 named Whalley and 3 surviving ones named Parker.
I really cannot find a death under her current name of Holt - so do suspect I will have to explore the children in 1881 unfortunately. This means finding the female marriages first (oh joy!).
(Regarding the Mangle - you can imagine it being VERY rusty after 30 years, if it was the same one).
To be honest, I hadn't wanted to face that - she had 4 named Whalley and 3 surviving ones named Parker.
I really cannot find a death under her current name of Holt - so do suspect I will have to explore the children in 1881 unfortunately. This means finding the female marriages first (oh joy!).
(Regarding the Mangle - you can imagine it being VERY rusty after 30 years, if it was the same one).
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Lancashire / Re: Elizabeth or Betty Holt missing after 1871
« on: Sunday 08 June 25 16:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Milliepede - in 1871 she is alone, at 1, Whalley Square, Preston - shown as Elizabeth Holt aged 80 - occupation 'Keeps Mangle'!! (The occupation made me laugh - but in 1841 she had been a 'Mangle Keeper' as well!)
Thank you for looking at this query.
Thank you for looking at this query.