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Ireland / Re: 1851 Michael O'Neil- Hanora-Moore O'Neil departure
« on: Tuesday 04 July 06 16:22 BST (UK)  »
Dear Ticker
Thanx for moving my post from Kilkenny to Irl General....still no luck, tho I'm in contact with an O'Neil in Canada who thinks our lines probably cross.  I will post our findings or even lack of same when we know more. Thanx...also, why is the message notification at the top of page still showing one unread ?, I did read all of them.
Sincerely
Frank

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Ireland / Re: 1851 Michael O'Neil- Hanora-Moore O'Neil departure
« on: Wednesday 09 November 05 05:04 GMT (UK)  »
Well, drat!!. I'm up against another brick wall.  I pursued the Kilkenny road because of an article written in a Copenhagen, New York publication that declared Kilkenny as the Irish origin of Hanora (Moore) O'Neil.  I found in Griffith's a listing of a couple of Michael O'Neil's of the correct age and for the correct time period in Tullaroan Kilkenny. I assumed one of them would have been our ancestor.
I have been in contact with a current resident of Lisnalea, Tullaroan,60 Kilkenny, Ireland who is living in the town I thought our Michael came from. This gentleman John O'Neill has been gracious and very helpful. He polled family resources as well as met with his parish priest and together reviewed old parish records. Alas, he reports to me in a letter postmarked Nov.  1st, 05 that they were unable to verify my suspicions. It seems " his" Michael and "ours" were different people.
Correspondence with the good people in Ottawa where our O'Neil's resided prior to coming to Lewis County N.Y. indicates County Cork, County Wicklow, and County Tipperary as the origin of other O'Neil's who lived in Bytown (ottawa) at the same time as ours, and who appear to be related.
I guess that will be the next direction of search. I am not sure where to begin, as their information seems to be based on legend, as was mine. Any help will be surely appreciated.  At least the current John O'Neill and a Fr. Guilfoyle  of Tullaroan let me know were NOT to look. For that help I am grateful.

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Ireland / Re: 1851 Michael O'Neil- Hanora-Moore O'Neil departure
« on: Tuesday 27 September 05 01:21 BST (UK)  »
Marriage certificates..?? Would those be on file there in Lowville? or would they have been among the parish papers of the now defunct St's Peter and Paul parish?. I think cousin Peggy said those records were now under the care of a religious nun there in Copenhagen N.Y.
Next time we chat I'll ask her to inquire of the Sister. I did mention that she might check for Michael and familys' death certificates next time she's perusing the archives of the historical society there in Lowville. I feel those would have certain birthdates as well as parent's names and maybe hometown.
Great suggestion, thanks for the idea. Us "newbies" need all the help we can get. francisoneil

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Ireland / Re: 1851 Michael O'Neil- Hanora-Moore O'Neil departure
« on: Tuesday 16 August 05 05:59 BST (UK)  »
To anyone following this post:  I can report that my cousin located and had copied the Immigration Card of one of the subjects of this search; Michael O'Neil.
Data on the card gives his address as Montague-Lewis Co N.Y. the file reference as;File D 1458, and the Title and location of the court as Lewis Co. Supreme. Country of birth Ireland, age as 55. Date and port of arrival  in U.S. as Feb. 1853 Morristown N.Y. and Date of naturalization as June 12-1860. Listed names and addresses of witnesses/sponsors F.G. Newton-Pinckney N.Y. and Martin Murphy, also of Pinckney, New York.
Unfortunately, this card does not give the date of birth as a statistic, only the age of the subject. Hoped-for information that this card also fails to provide is town or county of birth...only Country is listed.
This is, however a great piece of his/our history to now have in our possession.

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Laois (Queens) / Re: Ballinakill McDonalds
« on: Tuesday 02 August 05 01:25 BST (UK)  »
Dear qltfiend;
I got that last question wrong...i should have said the records indicated Hanora-Moore- O'Neil's  MOTHERS name was O'Brien, not Michael's wifes name..of course Her maiden name was Moore. It's confusing because Hanora O'Neil's mother also was named Hanora.
 Hope all is well;
Frank

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Laois (Queens) / Re: Ballinakill McDonalds
« on: Friday 29 July 05 09:09 BST (UK)  »
Dear Kay, I have some church record from Canada indicating Hanora Moore's maiden name was O'Brien. Can you check with Auntie H. and see if she's able to confirm this? I think we're making slow progress on that side of the family. You have my email. FO

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Ireland / Re: 1851 Michael O'Neil- Hanora-Moore O'Neil departure
« on: Saturday 23 July 05 15:21 BST (UK)  »
well, i found the family this morning. It seems we were given a bad date for the departure from Ireland.  I found the whole family in the records of St. Phillip's Catholic Church, Richmond , Ontario Canada in 1850. They are all lined up there in a listing for the birth of their daughter Bridget...Michael the father  Hanora the mother BRIDGET the infant, with godfather Edward Cosgrove and godmother Ann Lyng. One small step, but a step nearer the "home sod" in Ireland. The web address is  http://www.bytown.net/philbir.htm

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Laois (Queens) / Re: Ballinakill McDonalds
« on: Saturday 02 July 05 23:09 BST (UK)  »
hi cousin..thanx for keeping up with my post. there are a lot of fine folk who use the chatroom. check in from time to time, one of them may have helpful info. Did you ever think it would be this difficult.? FJO

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Ireland / 1851 Michael O'Neil- Hanora-Moore O'Neil departure
« on: Friday 24 June 05 04:00 BST (UK)  »
In 1851 Michael O'Neil and Hanora Moore- O'Neil and 6 children departed Ireland for Canada. They left 2 deceased children in Ireland. One of the remaining 6 died at sea on trip. The family spent 3 yr in Canada then migrated to Montague, NY, USA  where they settled and are buried. Michael 1801-1880. Hanora 1808 (or possibly 1803)-1911. Hanora's parents were Thomas and Hanora Moore.We think the wedding of Michael and Hanora would have been in Kilkenny as would the baptisms of their children  and burials of the two children who died in Ireland.
We think they may have been from Kilkenny. Any Info appreciated. thanks. Francis O'Neil, Cleveland, OHIO

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