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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: What does certificate say???
« on: Sunday 12 August 12 07:06 BST (UK)  »
I know Brevitas, it's as if he just vanished without trace.  I can't find a death certificate for him anywhere.  I think you're right re the 7 year rule, I do remember something like that before someone could officially be declared dead, so perhaps they did have to wait until this time had passed before marrying. Henry's name is not on any of the children's certificates.  I'll need to get James Connelly's birth certificate from SP - I'm assuming that his name will definitely be on this certificate as he and Mary were married at the time of James' birth.   I don't have the family on the 1911 census yet, although I've spent quite a few credits trying to find them  ::)  I have death certificates from other relatives whereon it states if they were married before and James' death certificate (1948) just states one marriage (Mary Monaghan) so why he said widower on the census was probably as you say, for appearances sake because of the children.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: What does certificate say???
« on: Saturday 11 August 12 13:51 BST (UK)  »
Don't think he was married before at all as on their marriage cert it states bachelor and Mary's name is on all the birth certificates as mum and he is on all of them as dad.  Now I'm getting addicted to finding out the truth behind why they couldn't or didn't marry before 1906. He was 39 and she was 37 when they married.  The plot thickens.......

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: What does certificate say???
« on: Saturday 11 August 12 10:39 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Brevitas, that is definitely the right family, but I didn't know James Boyle was a widower, it doesn't say so on his marriage certificate to Mary (maybe a mistake?).  Now I'm really confused!  Mary Conelly, sister in law ??? Is this maybe just a wee white lie for dignity sake? James and Mary did marry in Greenock and as I said all their children were born out of wedlock.  The hunt goes on........ Thanks again Brevitas for giving me extra info, much appreciated.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: What does certificate say???
« on: Saturday 11 August 12 07:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks everyone for your responses, that makes very interesting reading that she was living with her father -  I didn't even know she had a son to Henry so that's really interesting.  Mary Monaghan and my great grandfather  James Boyle seemed to have had all their children out of wedlock before marrying in 1906 which really confused me.  Could it be that Henry was missing, presumed dead and that they couldn't marry until he was found?  I'll need to try and find the death certificate to find out cause of death etc so Middlesborough it is then!  Thanks again everyone, don't know what I would do without you all!!!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: What does certificate say???
« on: Friday 10 August 12 21:08 BST (UK)  »
Thanks guys, Pels he married Mary Monaghan in 1885 so that rules the 1884 death out, but thank you very much for looking anyway.  Keep the suggestions coming, does look like Middlesbro, now that you are all mentioning it!   :D

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / What does certificate say???
« on: Friday 10 August 12 20:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi, can anyone tell me what this certificate says under Mary Monaghan?  It is for my grandfather Patrick Boyle, but under his mother (Mary Monaghan)  it has widow of Henry Connolly, labourer who died  at ?......... 16 year ago.  All help much appreciated (as usual!!!)

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Donegal / Re: Doherty from Donegal to Scotland
« on: Monday 06 August 12 15:40 BST (UK)  »
Thanks rathmore, I did see this article and printed it off, it makes very interesting reading.

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Donegal / Doherty from Donegal to Scotland
« on: Friday 03 August 12 21:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi, hope one of you lovely people can help me out (again!!!)  My Great Grandparents Patrick and Bridget Doherty came from Scalp Mountain area of Buncrana, Donegal to Scotland. When - I don't know. They had 8 children, my gran was born 1st September 1919 in Falkirk. (Annie Docherty) she was the youngest of 8 I have tried the 1911 census on Scotland's People, not just for Falkirk but for all of Scotland, spent weeks/months looking for them on Irish Census records to no avail. I also checked English Census records in case they went there first before moving up to Scotland.  I have found my GGGrandparents Edward Doherty and Mary (McLaughlin) Doherty on a 1901 census with some of my GGrandmother's brothers and sisters but not my GGrandmother (she would have been 23 at this time and probably left home/married) The 1901 census shows the family living at 26 in Gortnaskea, Birdstown, Donegal.

My Great Grandfather Patrick Doherty was born 16.5.1873 - Parents Charles Doherty and Ellen Doherty (Donnell)
My Great Grandmother Bridget Doherty (her married name also) born 1878 (or thereabouts) I've guessed this from her death certificate. Parents Edward Doherty and Mary Doherty (McLaughlin)
Patrick and Bridget's children were:-
Patrick Docherty
Peter Docherty
Mary Docherty
Charles Docherty
Edward Docherty
Ellen Docherty
John Docherty
Annie Docherty
Unfortunately, I don't know what order they were born only that my gran was the youngest and the spelling of the surname may Doherty for some of the children if they were born in Ireland, although I can't find them!   :o

I'd love to find out when my grandparents came over here, when they got married etc.  I know that if I could get one of the children's birth certificates I would get a date and place of marriage which might help.  I'll keep researching but if anyone has any ideas or clues I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Colour my wedding cake please????
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 20:06 BST (UK)  »
He he he Japeflakes, that made me laugh!  You did a beautiful job of it too, well done!  Geraldine

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