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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Confirmation of Date in Latin
« on: Yesterday at 21:37 »
Quote from: Zefiro on Yesterday at 20:42
Quote from: Bookbox on Yesterday at 20:35
ixno Novembris A(nn)o
R(egni) R(egi)ne Elizabeth(e) &c xxxijdo

= 9 November 1590

Thanks, and what's the meaning of &c

&c = etc. In this context it stands for

... dei gratia anglie francie et hibernie fidei defensoris ...

... by the grace of god [queen] of England, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith ...

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Confirmation of Date in Latin
« on: Yesterday at 20:35 »
ixno Novembris A(nn)o
R(egni) R(egi)ne Elizabeth(e) &c xxxijdo

= 9 November 1590

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Confirmation of Date in Latin
« on: Yesterday at 15:22 »
I think it is: ixno = nono = ninth.

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Europe / Re: what is Rosalia's 3rd Forename? Vrchlabi Czechia, Latin
« on: Monday 05 January 26 12:57 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: fiddlerslass on Monday 05 January 26 12:06 GMT (UK)
Is it Emerentiana?  Not a name I've seen before, but an obscure 4th century saint!

Yes, I read it as that too.

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London and Middlesex / Re: KATTERNS family
« on: Monday 05 January 26 11:31 GMT (UK)  »
There are no centralised baptism records as such.

Worth looking out for a second-hand copy of Geoffrey Breed - My Ancestors were Baptists, an old Society of Genealogists publication (probably now long out of print).

Meanwhile, you may find this page useful for background information and links ...
https://www.baptisthistory.org.uk/Groups/404967/Family_History.aspx

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Name on 1627 baptism
« on: Sunday 04 January 26 17:39 GMT (UK)  »
I'd suggest Raphe (= Rafe, or Ralph).

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin - 1522 Admon for John Walleston
« on: Sunday 04 January 26 09:39 GMT (UK)  »
Another time, please post all the relevant information upfront. Had you revealed the published index entry earlier, I would have immediately picked up on W. ren. That would have saved me a lot of time in trying to unravel the  sense of the damaged entry.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin - 1522 Admon for John Walleston
« on: Saturday 03 January 26 12:05 GMT (UK)  »
Ah! In that case maybe it's the other way round? As you can see, it's largely guesswork with the incomplete text available. Maybe John Penny appeared and said that Agnes had been named executrix, but she was unwilling to act and had renounced the executorship. So Agnes was cited and summoned to court, where she was instructed to administer the estate regardless. If she was reluctant or incompetent, that might help explain why goods were left unadministered until so much later?


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin - 1522 Admon for John Walleston
« on: Saturday 03 January 26 11:30 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: rkraeuatzd on Saturday 03 January 26 09:53 GMT (UK)
I'm now confused whether he was testate or not!

I can see the difficulty. While admittedly there has to be some speculation in the one we've just done (because of the damage), there was definitely a will, because there is an executor and a renunciation:

lines 2-3 …  allegavit Johannes Penny esse executor = alleged John Penny to be the executor

lines 5-6 … certificavit quod prefatus Johannes Penny … quod noluit subire onus execucionis testamenti = confirmed that the aforesaid John Penny … that he was not willing to undertake the burden of execution of the will

line 10 … & expresse renunciavit onus = and expressly renounced the burden

So a different John Walyson/Wallesson perhaps, albeit of Ruislip and with a wife named Ann or Agnes?

Are you certain of the years covered by the two registers?

Sorry I can't make other suggestions at the moment.

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