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The Common Room / Re: TNA Parking
« on: Today at 17:31 »
It's cashless parking - you can pay by card.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with Plea from 1512
« on: Today at 15:31 »
Then the defendants, via their attorney Richard Copcote, deny force and wrong, and request permission to enter into discussion and to respond further after Easter, and this is granted.
So, once again, you might find another entry later.
So, once again, you might find another entry later.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help deciphering please
« on: Today at 14:33 »it's written Elict pasion either as one or two words, and is the cause of death when written between the age and Corps.
I agree.
elicere (Lat.) can mean 'to draw out' or 'extend'
passio, passionis (Lat.) means 'suffering' or 'endurance'
So I wonder if it is just a way of expressing 'after lengthy suffering' ?
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Entry in Plea Roll of 1485
« on: Today at 14:11 »
I would suggest only one correction
p(er) attorn(atum) suu(m)
(To explain the grammar, which I know you will appreciate, the possessive adjective suus normally agrees with the object that is possessed, which here is singular, not with the person/people doing the possessing.)
I think it is probably Miller (rather than myller), and that there is a descender on the M which just indicates a capital.
p(er) attorn(atum) suu(m)
(To explain the grammar, which I know you will appreciate, the possessive adjective suus normally agrees with the object that is possessed, which here is singular, not with the person/people doing the possessing.)
I think it is probably Miller (rather than myller), and that there is a descender on the M which just indicates a capital.
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London and Middlesex / Re: Dunster family
« on: Yesterday at 17:41 »
In 1921 try searching for DEUSTER.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Entry in Plea Roll of 1485
« on: Tuesday 18 November 25 16:21 GMT (UK) »
In the first one (883), Wynterborne owes £10, Mariote owes £9, and Kete owes 40 shillings.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Entry in Plea Roll of 1485
« on: Tuesday 18 November 25 15:33 GMT (UK) »
[margin] Berk
Ricardus Natsale per Thomam Vyncent attorn(atum) suu(m) op(tulit) se iiijto die v(er)sus Will(el)m(um) Wynterburn nup(er) de Grove
in p(ar)ochia de Wantyng in Com(itatu) p(re)d(i)c(t)o husbandman Et v(er)sus Joh(ann)em Kete nup(er) de Westildesley in Com(itatu)
p(re)d(i)c(t)o husbandman de pl(ac)ito q(uo)d ut(er)q(ue) eor(um) reddat ei quadraginta solidos quos ei debent & iniuste detine(n)t
&c Et ip(s)i non ven(erunt) Et sicut plur(a) prec(eptum) fuit vic(ecomiti) q(uo)d cap(er)et eos si &c Et salvo &c Ita q(uo)d h(ab)eret corpora
eor(um) hic ad hunc diem scil(ice)t a die Pasche in quinq(ue) septimanas &c Et vic(ecomes) modo mand(at) q(uo)d non
sunt inventi &c I(de)o prec(eptum) est vic(ecomiti) q(uo)d exigi fac(eat) eos de Com(itatu) in Com(itatum) quousq(ue) &c utlagent(ur) si non &c
Et si &c tunc eos capiat Et salvo &c Ita q(uo)d h(ab)eat corpora eor(um) hic in Octabis s(an)c(t)i Martini Et
unde &c.
Richard Natsale presented himself on the fourth day, through Thomas Vyncent his attorney, against William Wynterburn lately of Grove in the parish of Wantyng/Wantage in the aforesaid county, husbandman, and against John Kete lately of West Ilsley in the aforesaid county, husbandman, in a plea whereby each of them should pay him forty shillings which they owe him and unlawfully withhold, etc. And they did not come. And, just as on many occasions, the sheriff was ordered to arrest them if [they were found in his jurisdiction] etc., and safely [keep them] etc., so that he should have their bodies here on this day, namely within five weeks of Easter Day etc. And the sheriff now reports that they have not been found [in his jurisdiction], etc. Therefore, the sheriff is ordered to have them exacted from county to county until they are outlawed etc. if [they do] not [appear] etc., and if [they do appear] etc. he should arrest them and safely [keep them] etc., so that he should have their bodies here within the Octave of St Martin. And whereupon, etc.
Note - the Latin wording is standard for this sort of plea, and heavily abbreviated, so I have added a few words in square brackets to help the sense.
ADDED
The wording suggests that there should be previous and subsequent entries in the plea rolls for this suit.
Ricardus Natsale per Thomam Vyncent attorn(atum) suu(m) op(tulit) se iiijto die v(er)sus Will(el)m(um) Wynterburn nup(er) de Grove
in p(ar)ochia de Wantyng in Com(itatu) p(re)d(i)c(t)o husbandman Et v(er)sus Joh(ann)em Kete nup(er) de Westildesley in Com(itatu)
p(re)d(i)c(t)o husbandman de pl(ac)ito q(uo)d ut(er)q(ue) eor(um) reddat ei quadraginta solidos quos ei debent & iniuste detine(n)t
&c Et ip(s)i non ven(erunt) Et sicut plur(a) prec(eptum) fuit vic(ecomiti) q(uo)d cap(er)et eos si &c Et salvo &c Ita q(uo)d h(ab)eret corpora
eor(um) hic ad hunc diem scil(ice)t a die Pasche in quinq(ue) septimanas &c Et vic(ecomes) modo mand(at) q(uo)d non
sunt inventi &c I(de)o prec(eptum) est vic(ecomiti) q(uo)d exigi fac(eat) eos de Com(itatu) in Com(itatum) quousq(ue) &c utlagent(ur) si non &c
Et si &c tunc eos capiat Et salvo &c Ita q(uo)d h(ab)eat corpora eor(um) hic in Octabis s(an)c(t)i Martini Et
unde &c.
Richard Natsale presented himself on the fourth day, through Thomas Vyncent his attorney, against William Wynterburn lately of Grove in the parish of Wantyng/Wantage in the aforesaid county, husbandman, and against John Kete lately of West Ilsley in the aforesaid county, husbandman, in a plea whereby each of them should pay him forty shillings which they owe him and unlawfully withhold, etc. And they did not come. And, just as on many occasions, the sheriff was ordered to arrest them if [they were found in his jurisdiction] etc., and safely [keep them] etc., so that he should have their bodies here on this day, namely within five weeks of Easter Day etc. And the sheriff now reports that they have not been found [in his jurisdiction], etc. Therefore, the sheriff is ordered to have them exacted from county to county until they are outlawed etc. if [they do] not [appear] etc., and if [they do appear] etc. he should arrest them and safely [keep them] etc., so that he should have their bodies here within the Octave of St Martin. And whereupon, etc.
Note - the Latin wording is standard for this sort of plea, and heavily abbreviated, so I have added a few words in square brackets to help the sense.
ADDED
The wording suggests that there should be previous and subsequent entries in the plea rolls for this suit.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1545 English Will & Latin probate of Rev Richard Norwood
« on: Monday 17 November 25 09:04 GMT (UK) »
ml vC xlvto = millesimo quingentesimo quadragesimo quinto = 1545
... p(rese)ns testament(um)
... Iuramentis Thome gray et Nicolai Shancke Testiu(m) ... (= 'by the oaths of TG and NS, witnesses')
... onus execu(c)io(n)is ... (= 'the burden of execution')
in test(amen)to no(m)i(n)atis p(ri)mitus in forma iuratis Dat(um) &c (= 'named in the will, having first been sworn in [due] form. Dated etc.')
... p(rese)ns testament(um)
... Iuramentis Thome gray et Nicolai Shancke Testiu(m) ... (= 'by the oaths of TG and NS, witnesses')
... onus execu(c)io(n)is ... (= 'the burden of execution')
in test(amen)to no(m)i(n)atis p(ri)mitus in forma iuratis Dat(um) &c (= 'named in the will, having first been sworn in [due] form. Dated etc.')
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Hand writing please, it's from a will/admin of 1592
« on: Saturday 15 November 25 18:12 GMT (UK) »
[margin] Administration of the goods of Thomas Boxall, deceased
On the same day Master John Snow [etc.?] granted administration of the goods of Thomas Boxall of Kirdford, deceased, to Joanna/Joan, his relict/widow, to well etc., saving the right etc. Inventory submitted - £25 8s. 6d.
ADDED
I think it is written Boxall rather than Baxall.
On the same day Master John Snow [etc.?] granted administration of the goods of Thomas Boxall of Kirdford, deceased, to Joanna/Joan, his relict/widow, to well etc., saving the right etc. Inventory submitted - £25 8s. 6d.
ADDED
I think it is written Boxall rather than Baxall.