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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA testing: 23andme
« on: Saturday 21 April 12 14:52 BST (UK)  »
The number of markers is all dependent on your objective.  If you just want the basic deep ancestry of the family the 12 marker is good.  That is what I started with but eventually decided to upgrade to 67. 

It's not always about what you get.  Since many are needed to build the database so results can be obtained.  I don't know if I'll upgrade further but am satisfied with what I've done.

Craig 

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA testing: 23andme
« on: Friday 20 April 12 20:26 BST (UK)  »
What they call family finder is autosomal testing.  They want it both ways the hype that a connection in less than 5 generations.  Then the disclaimer and admission that the info can't specify where on the tree the results will appear. 

Plus the premium I think is unreasonably high.  I have bumped mine up to the 67 marker level over a couple of years but am hesitant to go further.  You stated you had hundreds of results....Over a couple of years I have had 2 exact and half a dozen other matches.  I'm hoping that the database will grow and include more of mine. 

Craig

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA testing: 23andme
« on: Friday 20 April 12 16:53 BST (UK)  »
FTDNA is having a sale that ends tomorrow 4/22/12 at midnight. I will post the info below.  Nick just one slight logistic point.  The higher concentration of one group over the other only means that more have been tested that match your group from one.   If you had a base of 2,000 that matched 700 that would be great. but if you had a base of 200,000,000 (fictitious)  and only had 3 it's just a sampling issue not a quality one.  Anyway with that said. Here's the email I got from FTDNA.  It applies to all families.

Craig

Hello All,

Nearly all Family Tree DNA tests will be on sale for two days, including upgrades. Sorry, no Y-DNA SNP items are in this one. The sale will end at 11:59PM Central USA Time on Saturday April 21st. All orders must be paid by the end of the sale. Prices are in US Dollars.

New Kits (For your Friends and Relations)

Current Group Price SALE PRICE
mtDNA $99 $59
Y-DNA12 $99 $59
Y-DNA37 $149 $129
Y-DNA67 $238 $199
Family Finder (FF) $289 $199
mtFullSequence $299 $249
Y-DNA12 + mtDNA $179 $118
FF + Y-DNA12 $339 $258
FF + mtDNA $339 $258
FF + Y-DNA37 $438 $328
FF + mtDNAPlus $438 $328
Comprehensive (Family Finder + mtFullSequence + Y-DNA67) $797 $657

Order new kits here.  http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?&group=H&vGroup=h%20mtdna%20haplogroup

Upgrades (For Current FTDNA Kits)
Y-DNA12 $89 $59
mtDNA $89 $59
Y-DNA12-37 Marker $99 $69
Y-DNA37-67 Marker $99 $79
Y-DNA12-67 Marker $199 $148
mtFullSequence upgrade (mtHVR1toMega) $269 $199
mtFullSequence upgrade (mtHVR2toMega) $269 $199
mtFullSequence add-on $289 $219
Family Finder add-on $289 $199

To order an upgrade, go to the https://www.familytreedna.com/login.aspx page and enter your kit number and password. Then click on the orange Order an Upgrade button on the top right of your myFTDNA account.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA studies
« on: Monday 16 April 12 05:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi Milly Mac,

I have and with a 67 match it should be close.  I think they said that meant <200 years or was that 2-3 generations.  They don't match any way you slice it though which is very frustrating. 

Everything is frustrating about my surname line. The only family data is a place that doesn't exist, I have a Yorkshire connection but with a genetic distance of one.  Meaning not direct but maybe a brother or cousin. 

In the land of very few connections and few studies....my exact match in the UK is Isle of Man.  Go figure.  Through a fluke actually talked to the head of FTDNA.  He stated that it looked like a definite Viking connection through Norway.  All new to me. 

How did yours work out?

Craig

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA Testing
« on: Sunday 15 April 12 21:53 BST (UK)  »
www.familytreedna.com is the one I have used.  You can also try the associated with www.ancestry.com

Relating to a match and actual connections is a remote possibility.  The key is having more markers tested.  The more markers in common the greater the chance of a match and the closer in time.  After a couple of years testing at 67 markers there is only 2 exact matches and only 1 with the same surname.  Obviously the number of those tested needs to increase dramatically to begin to get genealogical confirmation.

FTDNA does have a product...for a bunch more $$$ of course that is supposed to help in that regard but I haven't been sold on it yet. 

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA studies
« on: Sunday 15 April 12 16:11 BST (UK)  »
Initially was only going to say that I had a Scottish link also.  Howerver since DNA tends to be an amorphous type of deep mystery thang decided to show the actual results.  Hope this helps.  BTW like I said my only source for my paternal line is a family source...reliability though is unknown.  It said he was born Colchester on Thames.   That doesn't seem right.  The only direct link from DNA states Yorkshire.  Again not in sync with either Thames or Colchester.  Hmmmm  It doesn't line up well but you should get the drift.

Family Tree DNA
   
Y-DNA - Ancestral Origins
12 Marker
EXACT MATCH
Country    Match Total    Country Total    Percentage    Comments
Norway    1    1333    0.1%    
United Kingdom    1    10648    < 0.1 %    Isle of Man (1)
United States    1    2551    < 0.1 %    

GENETIC DISTANCE -1
Country    Match Total    Country Total    Percentage    Comments
Denmark    1    814    0.1%    
England    9    23924    < 0.1 %    Yorkshire (1)
Estonia    1    75    1.3%    
Finland    1    1835    0.1%    
France    2    3363    0.1%    
Germany    9    12063    0.1%    
Greece    2    681    0.3%    
Hungary    4    1181    0.3%    
India    6    1322    0.5%    
Iran    1    266    0.4%    
Ireland    1    14057    < 0.1 %    
Israel    1    138    0.7%    
Kuwait    1    154    0.6%    
Latvia    1    260    0.4%    
Norway    7    1333    0.5%    
Pakistan    1    150    0.7%    
Poland    2    3628    0.1%    
Russian Federation    5    3069    0.2%    Bryansk Oblast (1)
Scotland    13    11422    0.1%    
Sweden    3    1593    0.2%    
Switzerland    1    1843    0.1%    
Ukraine    2    1543    0.1%    Ashkenazi (1)
United Arab Emirates    3    269    1.1%    
United Kingdom    6    10648    0.1%    Isle of Man (1)
Shetland Islands (2)
United States    1    2551    < 0.1 %    
Uzbekistan    2    180    1.1%    Karakalpak (1)
25 Marker
EXACT MATCH
Country    Match Total    Country Total    Percentage    Comments
United States    1    1982    < 0.1 %    

GENETIC DISTANCE -2
Country    Match Total    Country Total    Percentage    Comments
England    1    18714    < 0.1 %    Yorkshire (1)
Norway    1    573    0.2%    
Scotland    1    9026    < 0.1 %    
37 Marker
EXACT MATCH
Country    Match Total    Country Total    Percentage    Comments
United States    1    1729    0.1%    
GENETIC DISTANCE -3
Country    Match Total    Country Total    Percentage    Comments
England    1    15900    < 0.1 %    Yorkshire (1)
67 Marker
EXACT MATCH
Country    Match Total    Country Total    Percentage    Comments
United States    1    586    0.2%    




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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA studies
« on: Saturday 14 April 12 16:20 BST (UK)  »
My haplogroup is  R1a1a on my Dad's side.  This gives tremendous insight to the source of your paternal/maternal lines come from.  I would never have guessed mine included Isle of Man, Norway, Brahman India, Mideast and on and on.  It doesn't give the whole picture just two.  Remember you're doubling every generation for awhile.  So once you've gone back a few generations it could be 2 of 64,128....1024 or more. In context By my 3rd GGrands I'm back over 200 years and have 32 unique families.  Check Wikipedia haplogroups for more detail.

For a woman to get her Fathers line she needs to use her brothers, the Father's brother or other direct male   The same would be true of any other male line.  Like your Mothers surname line.  You have to find a male relative for each of those lines which can be difficult once you go back a few generations. 

The nice thing is that even though it's a limited window it's exciting to know your actual roots.  I would never have even vaguely thought of the aforementioned links.  That it was just England.  When in fact England barely pops up at all.

BTW there are frequent specials which reduce the costs. Also you can begin with smaller number of markers. They generally begin with 12, then 24 37 67 the more markers the higher specificity and the more recent the ancestor match when it happens.

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