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Stirlingshire / Robert Gillespie married unknown woman & had these children. Who is mother?
« on: Sunday 09 June 13 23:41 BST (UK)  »
1. Janet b. abt 1817 possibly Falkirk and father Roberts poor relief info in 1864 says at that time she is in the USA.
2. Alexander b abt 1821 possibly Falkirk.
3. Margaret b. abt 1823 possibly in Falkirk, and Robert's poor relief in 1864 says she is in Australia
4. David b. abt 1830 possibly Falkirk, Robert's poor relief app states David is a sailor in 1864
5. Millar b. abt 1831 possibly Falkirk.

I am unable to find any info on these children, except perhaps that Alexander married in Alloa to Isabella Grainger. I do not have his marriage info.

Would love to definitively find out who their mother was. If I could just get a wee bit more info to go on......

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Midlothian / Re: Margaret Ann Laing re MELROSE
« on: Sunday 10 March 13 23:11 GMT (UK)  »
I have a Jane Melrose b. 1817 in Edinburgh, possibly to James Melrose and Mary (?). She has a daughter, Janet Moncrieff about 1838 from possibly a tryst. In 1842 she marries Robert Gillespie, a widower with children, and has several children with Robert including my grandfather. They lived in Falkirk after their marriage.

As with lots people who have Melrose ancestors, my family also said that Jane was not communicated with. Rumor has it that her father may have married a servant against family wishes and thus were expelled from the elite.

Does anyone have a James Melrose b abt 1792 who would have married a Mary and had a daughter Jane abt 1817 in Edinburgh???

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Stirlingshire / Re: More on Allans of Falkirk please
« on: Sunday 10 March 13 22:50 GMT (UK)  »
Re the Gillespie's. My Gillespie family immigrated to Hamilton, Ontario about 1905 from BONNYBRIDGE.
It was my ggrandmother Mary nee Duncan Gillespie, widow of James Gillespie of Falkirk. She was a postal carrier. She and her adult children and their spouses immigrated a few at a time to Ontario. i am looking for more info on possibly living relatives from Bonnybridge.

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Stirlingshire / Re: 1788 Falkirk Gillespie marriage
« on: Sunday 10 March 13 22:42 GMT (UK)  »
Monica, I know believe the Margaret Gillespie is the mother of my Robert (1796-1868) and wife of Robert Gillespie (1763-1834). Her parents were John Millar and Ann Alexander of Airth/Falkirk.

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Stirlingshire / Re: Marriage at St Ninians
« on: Sunday 10 March 13 22:28 GMT (UK)  »
I have a Mary Duncan born about 1842 possibly Bo'ness. She has a daughter born Feb 1863 in same area, who she names Mary Duncan. Family rumor is that this child is illegitimate and that her father may have been a soldier that was killed. I believe Mary left her child Mary with her parents who I think were John Duncan and Helen Anderson, in Linlithgow and moved to Newcastle Upon Tyne as a domestic servant and then married in 1868 to Robert Scott Harkus in Newcastle and became step mother to his children.

It is speculation which seems to add up but there are still doubts. Did your Mr. Mitchell and Mary Duncan have children?

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Stirlingshire / Re: My Earliest Gillespie's in Falkirk and spouses of their children
« on: Saturday 02 February 13 18:18 GMT (UK)  »
Mark, the Undertaker, has found my needle in the haystack.

My earliest Robert Gillespie born abt 1789-1796 in Falkirk, was the son of Robert Gillespie and Margaret/Mary Millar. They married in Falkirk about 1788 and Margaret was originally of the Carriden parish and child of Robert Miller and Anne Alexander. That is why Margaret shows up living with Robert in the 1841 Scottish census. She states on her 1852 poor relief application that her husband Robert died about 18 years earlier.
She has a (1) daughter, Catherine who marries Robert Smith and has Michael, Robert, Elizabeth, Margaret, Catherine, Adam and Alexander Smith. The last 2 are "writers" in Falkirk.
She has (2) daughter, Agnes born abt 1792 who marries a Mr. Stewart and immigrates to America.

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Lanarkshire / L & P, Edinburgh
« on: Saturday 08 December 12 16:35 GMT (UK)  »
what does the L&P stand for? It was listed as the residence of a relative on the 1861 Scottish census.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Gillespie & Duncan marriage - Gorbals
« on: Monday 29 October 12 00:05 GMT (UK)  »
YAY!!! I just received England marriage cert for Robert S Harkus and Mary Duncan. Her father is John Duncan, a gardener. Mary had a daughter also named Mary Duncan in 1862/1863. It appears she married Robert Harkus in 1868 and (1) became John Edward Harkus stepmother, (2) left her daughter Mary Duncan with her parents in Carriden, West Lothian, as John Duncan and Helen Anderson in 1871 census have a grandaughter Mary Duncan 8 yrs old born in Enland living with them. This younger Mary Duncan (father still unknown) marries James Gillespie 1882 in Glasgow, moves to Falkirk area and abt 1908 as a widow, she and her grown children and spouses immigrate to Ontario. One of her children is my grandfather, John Duncan Gillespie who dies in Los Angeles in 1951. On his death cert, his wife states that John's mothers last name is HARKNESS, which not only she mistook the spelling of, but was wrong, because it was his GRANDMOTHER Mary Duncan who married the Harkus.

Also... if not stated earlier by me, Edward Harkus writes to Mary (Duncan) Gillespie in Canada in 1911 and address's her as sister and he mentions Carriden, Scotland. Sooo I think this is all proof that my illegitimate ggrandmother, Mary Duncan, daughter of Mary Duncan who marries Robert Harkus is indeed truth. Whew! Thanks for letting me explain that. I sure hope others who have questions about this family will see this so I don't have to repeat myself!
*Gayle*

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Lanarkshire / Re: Gillespie & Duncan marriage - Gorbals
« on: Sunday 07 October 12 21:37 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I understand it is an assumption, however at the time of my grandfather's death his only living relatives were my 31 yr old father and my grandmother in Calif. The rest of the family was in Ontario, CA.


I've looked at the 1911 enlish census and Robert Harkus's wife Mary Duncan is entered as having been born in Dundee. So I'm trying to figure if this Mary is indeed my gggrandmother and the mother of my ggrandmother Mary Duncan who states she was born in Bo'ness and may be the "grandaughter listed as having been born in England and now resides with her grandparents John Moffatt Duncan and Helen Anderson at the 1871 Scottish census.

Mary is born in 1862/1863. Then maybe in 1868 her mother, a domestic servant, marries Robert Harkus who is widowed in Newcastle with a son John Edward Harkus b. 1868 to Mary Hanna Poole, and leaves her daughter behind? oh gosh my head is spinning again.


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