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Devon / Re: John KNILL b1827 - Chittlehampton
« on: Sunday 08 April 12 15:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi again.  John Knill's parents.   Matthew Knill (Kneyle) 1837 6 months imprisonment for stealing a Grinding stone in King's Nympton next door to Chittlehamholt 29/7/1837 Western Times and 12 months for larceny in 1840 died in prison.   Confirmed in British Library Newspaper archives online.   Also Elizabeth Sims,  Inquest into death of their daughter Rachel who died of burns accidentally received at a neighbours house but mother Elizabeth severely criticised by Coroner and Jury for making her recover on a 'dirt bed' and refusing to let her on to their 'feather bed' which Elizabeth was using with her 'paramour' a man called Joce, she married him 2 weeks after the death of Rachel.   North Devon Journal 30th March 1843.

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Devon / Re: NOTT family
« on: Thursday 05 April 12 17:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi,   My grandmother Rose Knill had a sister Alice Maud Knill who married Reginald Lawrence, his daughter Margaret Married Aubrey Nott in Barnstaple about 1952.   Alice maud and Rose Knill had another sister Ivy Grace Knill who married Arthur William Clemence - his mother was Florence Horrell born 1882 married Charles Clemence in Barnstaple Dec 1900.  Bill Webb

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Devon / Re: Charles W. KNILL - Devon
« on: Thursday 05 April 12 16:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi again William Knill Born Fowey 1863 had (among others) a son Charles Henry Knill married Beatrice May Watts, he was wounded in WW1 and went to live in Tyneside they had 9 children including a Charles William Knill born 1921 Tyneside.   About 1922/3 they returned to Barnstaple.   Charles William Knill married Nora Coppard and they had one daughter Sylvia.   Charles William was killed as a result of enemy action May 1944 in Poole.   

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Devon / Re: John KNILL b1827 - Chittlehampton
« on: Friday 30 March 12 14:08 BST (UK)  »
I have a lot about John and William Knill's family but I have never been able to connect this Knill family to either the Braunton or Pilton, Barnstaple - Knill families.   I do have a document sent to me a few years ago about the Braunton Knills from a chap who lived on one of the Greek Isles it appears on page 51 of his family tree document entitled Eleven (Chapter) The Knill Line and covers Alfred Slocombe Knill et al.    I was born in Ilfracombe as was my mother but not related to the Ilfracombe Knills, our family came from Barnstaple temporarily but prior to that from North Molton (for generations).
William Knill (Fowey) had 11 children.  William 1886 died in infancy; Emily 1888 married Sydney Knapp both died in the 1911 Enteric fever outbreak in Barnstaple; Eliza 1890 married frederick Frisbee lived in Barnstaple; Rose 1893 my Grandmother married 3 times all in Ilfracombe lived in Fore St, Berkely Place and lastly 12 Highfield Rd;  William George famous shooter 6th Devons won  medals at Bisley; Charles Henry wounded in WW1 moved to Tyneside then back to Barnstaple; Frederick 1898 WW1 ship was wrecked at Cape Wrath pensioned out of Royal Navy he emigrated to Winnipeg then moved and died in British Columbia; Florence 1899 also died in 1911 enteric fever outbreak; John Henry 1901 (Uncle Jack) emigrated to Winnipeg then on to Grand Rapids then Muskegon, Michigan USA; Alice Maud 1906 married Reginald Lawrence lived in Barnstaple; Ivy Grace 1909 married Arthur William Clemence moved to Exeter.    The Knapps who died in 1911 had two children and they were brought up by William and Sarah Jane Knill but the boy William Knapp fell foul of the law and was put into care of DR Barnardos and sent to Australia on his 16th Birthday.    Interesting but not sure if relevent to you.   All the best   Bill
 

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Devon / Re: John KNILL b1827 - Chittlehampton
« on: Thursday 29 March 12 15:11 BST (UK)  »
I have a vast amount of info on the North Devon Knills.    My Grandmother was Rose Knill born Barnstaple 1893 moved to Ilfracombe died 1958.   She was a daughter of William Knill born Fowey 1863 and Grand daughter of John Knill.   Matthew Knill John Knill's father(I am 98% certain) died in the Exeter Bridewell in 1840 his name was spelt Kneyle and he died of a 'visitation from God' he was there for 12 months for larceny.    Kneyle is one way of spelling Knill when pronounced in a Devon accent and he 'disappeared' in 1840 and this man was exactly the right age.    His wife Elizabeth Sims then re-married John Joce in 1843 and she finally died in the South Molton Workhouse aged 107 (on her death certificate-signed by the overseer) and she was (according to census - 99 in 1881 when at Touts court, South Molton.     However the later census show she was adding about 20 years to her age at succeeding census   I am convinced about his parents Matthew Knill and Mary Govier but less happy before this.   Where do you fit in with the North Devon Knills?.      Bill Webb

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Devon / Re: John KNILL b1827 - Chittlehampton
« on: Tuesday 27 March 12 17:50 BST (UK)  »
John Knill was my Gt Gt Grandfather he was born/baptised in swimbridge 14th Oct 1827.  Married Grace Handford 27/3/1853 in Chittlehampton.   They moved to Cornwall and my Gt grandfather William was born there (Fowey) in 1863 (they had 10 children in total.   John died at home on 11th sept. 1889 following a dreadful accident at the Molland Mine of a shock to the system, the result of severe burns sustained by a quantity of hot iron ore falling on him (There is a coroners report in the North Devon Journal 13/9/1889) .    His son William had a 'colourful' life which included a spell of five years in 1881 in Dartmoor convict prison, he 'joined up in WW1 at about 52 and had at least two charges of 'Salmon poaching' with a Gaff.

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