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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Another Latin text
« on: Tuesday 27 March 12 03:22 BST (UK)  »
A wonderful piece of sleuthing from you both.
Gratias multas plurimam!
Rob.

01 In dei nomine Amen xiij die mensis Octobris Anno Domine Millesimo CCCC nonagesimo quinto
   In God’s name, amen.  The thirteen day of the month of October, Year of Our Lord, fourteen hundred and ninety-five.

02 Ego Thomas Garnesey in parochia de Kingeston Deverill, in Coun. Wiltr.      compos mentis tamen eger
   I,  Thomas Garnesey in the parish of Kingston Deverill in County Wiltshire, sound of mind yet sick

03 in corpore condo testamentum meum in hunc modum. In primis lego animam meam omnipotenti Deo
   in body    make my testament      in this way  … Firstly I bequeath my soul to almighty God,

04 beatai Mariae Virgini et omnibus Sancte   corpus eius meum sepeliendium in ecclesia de Kingeston Deverell
   blessed Virgin Mary   and all His Saints, and my body to be buried      in the church of Kingston Deverell

05 predicta       Item  lego           matrici ecclesie Saris  3s 8d.  Item lego parochiali ecclesie de Kyngeston Deverell
   as aforesaid   Item: I bequeath the mother church at Saris  3s 8d.  Item: I bequeath to the parish church of Kingston Deverill

06 predict   xxs  Item lego Rectori ecclesie                £3 6s 8d   Item lego parochiali ecclesie de ?Minster Deverell
   aforesaid 20s  Item: I leave to the rector of the church £3 6s 8d   Item: I bequeath to the parish church of ?Minster Deverell

07 6s 8d residuum vero bonorum meorum  non legatore       do et lego         Mauricio Gyfford debitis meis
   6s 8d but the remainder of my goods not bequeathed I give and bequeath to Maurice Gifford for my debts

08 prius predict  et eundem Mauricium  facio   ordino et  constituo meum executorem ad solvenda debita
   as said before and the same Maurice I make, ordain and constitute my executor    to pay the debts

09 mea     et ad disponenda prout ei melius videbit expedire pro salute animae meae et parentum meorum
   of mine and to spend as seems best to him        to dispatch for my salvation    and that of my parents

10 et omnium fidelium defunctorum hiis.    testibus  Willimo Carter   Alexandro Hiedayes * *** *
   and that of all the faithful departed.  Witnesses William Carter   Alexander Hiedayes and others.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Another Latin text
« on: Monday 26 March 12 14:03 BST (UK)  »
Graham & Clayton, that has greatly advanced the plot - thanks a heap to both of you.

Here's my understanding of your corrections, although my Latin lines are now running the English translation.

01 In dei nomine Amen xiij die mensis Octobris Anno Domine Millesimo CCCC nonagesimo quinto
   In God’s name, amen.  The thirteen day of the month of October, Year of Our Lord, fourteen hundred and ninety-five.

02 Ego Thomas Garnesey in parochia de Kingeston Deverill, in Coun. Wiltr. compos mentis tamen eger
   I, Thomas Garnesey, in the parish of Kingston Deverill in county Wiltshire, sound of mind , sick

03 in corpore condo testamentum meum in hunc  modum. In primis lego animam meam omnipotenti Deo
   of body, make my testament in this way … Firstly I bequeath my soul to almighty God,

04 beatai Mariae Virgini et omnibus Sancte circa corpus ** meum sepeliendium in catholica de Kingeston Deverell
   the blessed Virgin Mary and all the Saints, and my body to be buried in the church of Kingston Deverell

05 predicta       Item lego rectora catholica 3s 8d. Item lego parocliiali catholica de Kyngeston Deverell
   as aforesaid   Item: I bequeath **  * **  3s 8d.  Item: I bequeath to the Rector of the church of Kingston Deverill

06 predicta  vv   Item lego re** ** ** * **                               Item lego parocliiali catholica de   ******* Deverell
   aforesaid 20s  Item: I bequeath to the rector of the church £3 6s 8d   Item: I bequeath to the parish church of ?Minster Deverell

07 ** **   ** **** * residuum **** ****** ***** non legatore do et lego manerio Gyfford de *** meis
   6s 8d but the remainder of my goods not bequeathed I give and bequeath to ?Maurice Gifford for my debts

08 prius * Salute ** ***** ******   facio ordino et confituo meum executorem ad solvenda debits
   and the same ?Maurice I          make, ordain and confirm my executor to pay my

09 mea et ad Disposend prout ei melius videbitur expedire pro salute animae meae ** **** **
   debts and to dispose of just as it will seem best to him, expeditiously for the salvation of and my parents

10 et omnium fidelium defunctorum hiis testibus Willimo  ** inter Alexandro Hiedayes * *** *
   and all the faithful departed.  Witnesses Willimo Carter, Alexander ?Hiedayes and others.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Another Latin text
« on: Saturday 24 March 12 11:56 GMT (UK)  »
I've done a bit more on this but still stuck in some of the key areas. My problems are several: the indistinct hand, the script (which googling suggests may be a Gothic variant called secretary bastarda!) the contractions or short forms used and my totally inadequate knowledge of Latin.

Suggestions about either transcription or translation gratefully accepted:

01 In dei nomine Amen primo die mensis Octobris Anno Domine Millesimo CCCC nonagesimo quinto
   In God’s name, amen.  The first day of the month of October, Year of Our Lord, fourteen hundred and ninety-five.

02 Ego Thomas Garnesey in parochia de Kingeston Deverill, in Coun. Wiltr. compus mentis tamen eger
   I, Thomas Garnesey, in the parish of Kinston Deverill in county Wiltshire, sound of mind , sick

03 in corpore condo testamentum meum in hunc  modum. Im premis lego animam meam omnipotenti Deo
   of body, make my testament in this way … Firstly I bequeath my soul to almighty God,

04 beatai Mariae Virgini et omnibus Sancte circa corpus ** meum sepeliendium in catholica de Kingeston Deverell
   the blessed Virgin Mary and all the Saints, around my body buried in  of Kingston Deverell

05 Provident Item lego  **  * **                       Item lego parocliiali catholica de Kyngeston Deverell
   Provident Item: I bequeath                             I bequeath to the catholic parish of Kingston Deverill

06 Provident vv Item lego re** ** ** * **              Item lego parocliiali catholica de ******* Deverell
   Provident vv Item: I bequeath ** ** ** * **        I bequeath to the catholic parish of **** Deverell

07 ** **   ** **** * residuum **** ****** ***** non legatore do et lego manerio Gyfford de *** meis
   ** **                                                                                          give and bequeath to

08 prius * Salute ** ***** ******   facio ordino et confituo meum executorem ad ** Dobson
                                                         appoint and confirm my executor to be

09 mea et ad Disposend prout eis melius videbitur expedire pro salute animae meae ** **** **
   me and to dispose of just as ** and it will be better provided quickly for my welfare

10 et omnium fidelium defunctorum hiis testibus Willimo  ** inter Alexandro Hicd*y*es * *** *
   et      witnessed by Willimo Carter,  Alexandro

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Devon / Re: MELHUISH family of Broadclyst
« on: Thursday 22 March 12 12:34 GMT (UK)  »
A bit later but we may have a link.
... the other two went to Australia. Harriet d 1835 in North Curry
Graham

Yes, they did and Elizabeth Penelope Meade married her cousin, Robert Garnsey Meade, and had a big family in Victoria.
Her brother Richard Crudge Meade was living with them too but died abt age 35 in an accident.

Incidentally, Graham, I've got some more details on your Mary Hannah G and her mum, Elizabeth Hurley - pedigrees nailed down but also some interesting stories that throw light on relationships. Drop me an email if you haven't already discovered it all.  And glad to see you're not out playing golf ;)
Rob.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Another Latin text
« on: Thursday 22 March 12 11:12 GMT (UK)  »
Anyone want to try delaying dementia onset with this one? Ten lines of Latin will and all I've been able to make of it so far ...

01 In dei nomine Amen primo die ???  mensis Octobris Anno Domine Millesimo CCCC nonagesimo anno quinto
   In God’s name, amen.  The first day of the month of October, Year of Our Lord, fourteen hundred and ninety-five.

02 Ego Thomas Garnesey in parochia de Kingeston Deverill, in Coun. Wiltr. compus mentis tamen eger
   I, Thomas Garnesey, in the parish of Kinston Deverill in county Wiltshire, sound of mind ???, sick

03 in corpore condo testamentum meum in hunc  modum. Im premis lego animam meam omnipotenti Deo
   of body, make my testament in this way … Firstly I bequeath my soul to almighty God,

04 beatai Mariae Virgini et omnibus Sancte circa corpus ?? meum sepeliendium in ??? de Kingeston Deverell
   the blessed Virgin Mary and all the Saints, around my body buried in ??? of Kingston Deverell

05 ?? Item lego ??? ?? ??? ? ?? Item lego ?? de Kyngeston Deverell
   Item: I bequeath

06 ????  Item lego ?? ?? ?? ?? ? ??    item lego  ??? ??? de ?????? Deverell
   ???? Item: I bequeath ?? ?? ?? ? ?? I bequeath ??? ??? of

07 ?? ?? ??? ??? ??? ??? non legatore do et lego ??? Gyfford
   ?? ?? ??? ??? ??? ??? non legatore give and bequeath ??? Gyfford

08 prius  ??? ??? facio ordino et confituo meum executorem ad ?? Dobson
   prius ??? ??? appoint and confirm my executor to

09 mea et ad Disposend prout ???  et ?? ??? ??? expedire pro salute me ?? ??? ??? ??
   me and to dispose of just as ?? and ?? ??? ??? quickly for my welfare? ?? ?? ?? ??

10 et ??? ??? ??? ???  testibus Willimo  ?? inter Alexandro ???  ???.
   et ??? ??? ??? ???  witnessed by Willimo  ?? inter Alexandro ???  ???.

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