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Dublin / Irish ancestors-Dublin
« on: Monday 13 August 12 05:39 BST (UK)  »
Can any lovely genealogy people help please - Smith

I'm wishing to locate the marriage and death records of my gggrandfather's parents - Simon Smith and Hannah Smith.  Because Smith is such a common surname I've had to employ a professional Irish researcher who found that that my gggrandfather was born in the 1820's in the parish of St Lukes-Dublin - Church of Ireland denomination. I can only presume that both Simon and Hannah did also live in this parish.  However to this day this old church has fallen into disrepair, so I don't where to start to look for marriage and death records. Any ideas would be most helpful.         

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Dublin / Re: Can anyone help, please-Smith Family-Dublin
« on: Monday 05 March 12 12:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thankyou again Shane. I realized that St Peter was Church of Ireland and not Roman Catholic, however I decided to look at all of the Smith's born about 1825 on the irishgenealogy.ie - COI website location anway. One does get desperate when one doesn't know enough.  However, I didn't realize what you stated about St Peter. You seem to be very knowledgable. We can talk again in a day or two, Shane, but for now I've spent so much time on this computer today and if i don't get off it about now, then I think my whole body is going to disintegrate.  I don't know what country you are you are in, but as I've stated previously I'm here in Australia and its getting quite late at night. I thankyou once again for your tremendous help and your time.  Until then.   

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Dublin / Re: Can anyone help, please-Smith Family-Dublin
« on: Monday 05 March 12 12:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks again Shane. You are fantastic and i have to say that  i'm truly overwhelmed with the help you are trying to give me.  Just goes to show that there are some good people out there in Genealogy land. Like yourself, I did remember something also. It is, that on James Smith's death certificate, here in Australia, it mentions that his father name was 'Simon Smith', but his mother's names is unknown.  Now if that information is correct, I did find a 'Simon Smith' as the father of 'James Smith' born I think in 1827 in Dublin at St Peter Parish on the irishgenealogy.ie website.  The DOB is a little out from the DOB I have, but I'll go back and have a look, anyway. Also, I wanted to say that,  do you remember when I first started posting on this website, that I was also looking for a 'William Smith'.  As I've already stated to you previously, I joined a Genealogical Society in America and they were able to locate a James Smith and William Smith on the 1851 San Francisco marriage returns - Johanna Regan and Mary Ann Regan. (Not the actual Marriage Certificates though, unfortunately).  Anyhow, it seems to me that James Smith and William Smith were brothers who married two sisters. Maybe when I'm asking for help from a Genealogical Society in Ireland, that information will help a little.  All Helps.       

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Dublin / Re: Can anyone help, please-Smith Family-Dublin
« on: Monday 05 March 12 11:12 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Shane for that info.  Some Libraries I know offer a 'lookup service' and some don't. That's unfortunately the way it goes. Makes it difficult though.  I think I realized a while ago, because of the such common surname, that my family research was going to be quite difficult.  I think that I'll have to ask questions first and then hopefully go ahead and join/pay a reliable Genealogical Society in Ireland to do my research for me. I did this with a Genealogical Society in America and I got quite a bit of information, although they weren't able to locate my gggrandparent marriage certificate where it hopefully would have given the parents names on it making my research a little easier. Unfortunately though a lot of records were destroyed in the San Francisco earthquake of 1906. I'm afraid I'm not having much luck so far.  Road blocks almost all the way.
Nevermind I'll keep pressing on and hoping against hope.

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Dublin / Re: Can anyone help, please-Smith Family-Dublin
« on: Monday 05 March 12 10:48 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Shane again.  What a lovely person you are for helping me like this. I'm  in Australia doing this research and I'm getting more help from you than from the Genealogical Society I joined.  I'm not impressed, Grizzle! Grizzle! Anyway, do you perhaps think, that I should contact the National Library of Dublin first and ask them if they conduct searches for people, then if I have no luck with them, make contact with the parishes that you have kindly given me a link to? It did cross my mind though like you stated, that some of the parish priests or whoever, probably wouldn't carry out research for me.  Also, I was seriously thinking of joining a reliable Genealogical Society in Dublin, at a cost though, because I'm not getting anywhere fast if you know what I mean.

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Dublin / Re: Can anyone help, please-Smith Family-Dublin
« on: Monday 05 March 12 09:09 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Shane again. Problem is, that still doesn't answer my original question, re my Smith descendants who originated from Dublin.  Also will i have to contact every parish in Dublin if my search on irishgenealogy.ie proves unsuccessful.  What a nightmare to research, having the surname-Smith combined with Irish genealogy.  Nothing against any Irish people reading this post though.

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Dublin / Re: Can anyone help, please-Smith Family-Dublin
« on: Monday 05 March 12 08:45 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Shane again. Your info is much appreciated.  Your right, I forgot, Catholic BDM records weren't kept at PRO, kept by individual parishes. Then the rest were destroyed in WW1. Weren't the 1831, 1841 etc census kept at the PRO though, until fire destroyed it. I can't remember now which building was destroyed by fire. Anyway i'll take a look at irishgenealogy.ie again and try to narrow down the location re the name 'Smith'.  What a task when one has the name 'Smith' to research. 

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Dublin / Re: Can anyone help, please-Smith Family-Dublin
« on: Monday 05 March 12 08:17 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Shane for your reply also. I don't know what county/parish gggrandfather-James Smith came from in Dublin, wish i did. All it states on 2 of his children's birth certificates here in Australia, is that he was born in 1825 in Dublin. Could mean actually Dublin City, couldn't it? I don't know Ireland at all. Also, thanks very much for the link too, i'll read up on it. Oh how i wish like many other people do, that the fire in 1922 at The National Archives which destroyed most of the census information didn't happen.

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Dublin / Re: Can anyone help, please-Smith Family-Dublin
« on: Monday 05 March 12 08:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your reply, Elwyn.  Answering your question re my ancestors church denomination, i presume he was Roman Catholic, because James Smith my gggrandfather along with my gggrandmother left Ireland - date unknown - then went to America, San Francisco, California where they married in 1850 at the Roman Catholic Church - Mission Dolores Church. Then they came onto Australia where they raised their children and that is all i know. I realise that the gggrandfather could have been Church of Ireland but of course i don't know.

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