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I have now found the feet of fines for Fosham in 1467 involving John and Maud Elrington. Also involving Richard Rudde and Joan his wife. Along with Fosham manor there are other pieces of land etc. The agreement was for John and Maud and the heirs begotten by John on the body of Maud, defaulting to the heirs of the body of Maud and a final default to the right heirs of John Disney.

CP 25/1/294/74, number 45

The property did default to the heirs of John and Maud and to me this is another piece of evidence confirming that John is Sir John and his wife Maud was a Disney. So I now need to look at the Disney family much more closely.

Hi all

Looking for any information on the Disney family of Fosham manor, Aldbrough. Fosham manor was settled on John Disney and his wife Maud in 1367 and passed to Maud Disney, the wife of John Elrington, in 1467. The property then passed to Simon Elrington who died 1501, then to Thomas Elrington and possibly another Thomas Elrington and then to Edward Elrington who sold it to William Barne/s in 1577/78.

My primary interest is in establishing the marriage of John Elrington to Maud Disney (Dysney or D'Isney) and whether or not this John is Sir John Elrington, treasurer of the household of King Edward IV who died 1483. Although there are numerous references online to Sir John Elrington's first wife being Maud Disney there are none with any reliable evidence for this marriage which produced at least five children. Sir John Elrington married secondly Margaret Etchingham and this union is well documented.

I am therefore hoping to find a connection via Disney researchers and would love to connect with anyone with any knowledge of Fosham and the Disney family.

Goldcoast

Hi debrahdot

I am looking into the Jagger family for the grandson of Sidney's brother Arthur.

Your post was a long time ago but if you are still researching I would love to share any info. Did you ever find records for the boys' home?

Cheers
goldcoast

Thank you again Rudolf and John in Sussex. This is so very helpful. I am doing this for my best friend who is Michael Cap's daughter and was only 12 when he died and knows virtually nothing about his life. We are looking at all the places now and what was happening then and what he would have been going through.

Another question re 'taken to unfree / forced labour'.  Does this mean he would have been forcibly removed from Smolnik to work in Germany?

I still have some more translations and will put them up in time. All the Rootschat help is wonderful but I don't want to be greedy 

Regards
Goldcoast

Thank you so much Elwyn. Can you 9or anyone else) tell me what is written in the last three columns? I can see Smolnik as the first one under Town, province and country but that is all I can understand.

Thank you again

Cheers
Goldcoast