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Sorry not been researching for ages hit a brick wall as they say with pre 1850 in Ireland. All I know for sure are there was two brothers from silgo area possible rivers town Patrick and Michael 1840 1850.  Patrick late 1840s came to Scotland then Michael followed early 1850. My side went to a place in England called barnard castle very close to bishop auckland .from 1851 were another Michael is born 1851/52 they got married hannah mcateer stayed a few years came back to Scotland to lanark about 40 miles from Edinburgh. I think the first Michael from Ireland signed up for the army but after that I lost him. I have 90% of the rest after this. Apart for when Michael from england went back to Ireland in 1875-1879 got married to a Sarah Ferry! Then came back home. If this is of any help give me a message

Looks like it might be him the age is right and later on because there was so many Michaels some times they used Mick. in 1851 west Merryton old monklands. in 1861 the others are in Shotts.

He's down as a visitor with his brother Patrick in lanarkshire he was 16 in 1851. Then his brother went down to Bernard castle Co Durham were my ggg grandfather was born. Then At somepoint before 1861 census Patrick and family moved back to lanarkshire, but Michael is not with them by this point. Just my ggg grandfather named after Michael is on it with rest of family.

Thanks Sancti just thought i would let you know about the post i made back in February.got a positive location on the burial plot for patrick doyle 1890. looks like he was one of the first in the wilson town grave yard. first plot its unmarked plot and has another three people in it!. i got this information from very helpful staff from lanarkshire council who found a old map for the cemetery as there was no MI pointing to his location. again thankyou for point me to the right location.

Mark

thanks everyone, Elwyn thank you for the link yes have got all Scottish censuses from 1851 to 1891 and some poor law records too, but all state Ireland or at best silgo Ireland. Michael is in the 1851 then disappear from then on. no death cert or other certs for him at all so bit of a mystery there, but that's another story.

Mark