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Scotland / Re: Miller, shipbuilders, Fife, Renfrew, Clyde
« on: Sunday 31 March 19 11:30 BST (UK)  »
I have no idea if the Miller's I am following are connected to the ones in the original post.

I do know that the family I am following where ship builders in St Monace (St Monis).

the 1851 census for son John b. 08 Jan 1809 St Monance, Fife, Scotland is as follows:

Name John Miller Age 42 Estimated Birth Yearabt 1809 Relationship Head
Spouse Euphemia Miller
Gender Male
Where born St Monance, Fife
Parish Number 454
Civil parish St MonanceTownSt MonanceCountyFife
Occupation Boat Builder (4 Men)

The son's were in various trades relating to ship building etc.  I have other newspaper articles etc that provide info about the children of John in the ship building business in this town.

Why so aggressive?  Please don't bother with any further correspondence.

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Scotland / Re: Miller, shipbuilders, Fife, Renfrew, Clyde
« on: Sunday 31 March 19 09:16 BST (UK)  »
Hello.  I'm looking at this family as my brother in law is descendant from John Miller m Catherine Bridgeford 06 Feb 1802 St. Monance, Fife.  I believe John was b. 1773 in St Monance. The info in your message opens up a whole new group of possibilities.

regards

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Australia / Re: PAYNE: KEN, ENG to VIC, AUS to NZL
« on: Monday 20 February 12 04:29 GMT (UK)  »
There is an interesting bit of family folklore about four of the sons of John Frederick Payne b.1844 (son of Stephen Payne).  The story says that three or four of the boys were doing a fair bit of cattle rustling late 1880's early 1890's east of Melbourne.  The boys nearly got caught one night so to avoid possible arrest they decided to split up and leave Victoria.  Two brothers went to NSW, one to NZ and one to WA (that's our direct line).  I have never been able to verify the story but the story exists within two different parts of the Payne line. 

Coincidentially one of the boys, George (the WA one) was a butcher and the person Stephen Payne was with (John Frederick Payne's father) when he was struck by lightening in 1853 was also a butcher.  There must be some meat on this story somewhere.

There is also a bushranger about this time called John (?) Payne who was called The Butcher but I have never been able to find any link to our guys.

If nothing else it makes a nice bit of folklore.

Attached is a pic containing John Frederick PAYNE (on right)

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Australia / Re: PAYNE: KEN, ENG to VIC, AUS to NZL
« on: Monday 20 February 12 04:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,  I have been looking for more detail about Stephen Payne for years.  Please have a look at
http://www.stclair.id.au/ which gives a bit more of some of the tree for Stephen Payne.  There is an e-mail address on the web site that you can use to directly contact me.

thanks
Stephen

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