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Harrys wife Bessie Nee Sherman sadly dies of Pneumonia in Glasgow, 8th March 1921 - 27 Apsley Place, Gorbals, Glasgow...
She is laid to rest in the Sandymount Jewish Cemetery in Glasgow 

Hello team, Long shot here ..
Harry Morris by default is my Grt Grandfather
I have shared an amazing journey in finding out this family history and of his link to his daughter (My Gran) The power of DNA and with some luck that there was a willingness from a descendent of Harry to also cover there DNA Linking to my dear mother (who also had covered her DNA) It all came together and the facts were established .. The long shot here is the ask from the experienced Genealogist's in the crowd 

B:12 Sep 1886 Cheetham, Manchester, Lancashire, England

D:14 Sep 1940 Royal Infirmary, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Harry is laid to rest in Phillips Park Cemetery in Whitefield, Manchester

Timeline
- 1891 - Have him living wih family in Leeds
- 1901 - Living with his parents Sarah (Nee Kadish) & Benjamin Morris - From Lomza in Poland
- 1908 - 25 Aug possibly I have him sentenced to 3 days imprisonment or payment of 9pounds bastardy arrears.. Noting he is the right age, occupation and religion
- 1911 - cant find
- 1915 - Marries Bessie Sherman in Cardiff - Noting that he moves into the film industry with a crowd called Butchers? Role as a Film renter
- 1916 - 8th August - Daughter Jean Nettie Morris is born
- 1917 - October - Is appointed to the Midlands by the film bureau - Well known to exhibitors as he represented for some time Butchers film service (W. Nutcher & Sons) This is during WW1 - available for appointment so presume he is not enlisted
- 1920 - Jan 1st starts job in Glasgow with the Stoll Film Company - Having been for many years the outside man reported in newspaper in the Sth Wales for Messr`s Butcher Film Service (Not sure what the outside man means?)
- 1921 - April - My gran is born in Glasgow (Illegitimate)
- 1921 - Loses his wife Bessie due to complications from the flu (Possibly Spanish Flu?) Glasgow
- 1921 - Loses his father Benjamin
- 1921 - Has a son born Edinburgh (illegitimate) Edinburgh region - Linked through the family DNA
- 1924 - December Harry returns to sth Wales - Has been with Famous -Lasky previously with Butchers in Cardiff and Stolls in Glasgow
- 1928 - September - Leaves Cardiff to take up a Job with Warners in Manchester
- 1932 - 14 Aug marries Esther Cohen (shes 22 years younger than him)
- 1938 - Marriage of his daughter Jean Nettie Morris to Montefiore Seal at the Cardiff Synagogue - She is given away by her uncle Lewis Jacobs
- 1939 - In Manchester with wife Esther and her parents and is noted as a Film Renter / Distributor
- 1940 - Harry dies in hospital in Manchester

I have a few newspaper cuttings that could be shared but I am hoping that there may be some clues in this lot that could support further information on Harry Morris..

A colorful character in history and with the greatest of respect I would not be here with out him..

Moments of living on the edge and tragedy in the mix.. If anyone could help with further information I would be so grateful .. A picture of Harry would be gold dust ..
Thank you to all that reads this and grateful if any other help can be provided

Many Thanks
Scott

 

Quote from: Scott_M on Monday 14 November 22 18:12 GMT (UK)

Scotland's people record I am disappointed in as it is basic and no alignment to his roots or an address

Scotland's People is a part of the National Records of Scotland (NRS). Its specific remit is the maintenance of birth, marriage and death records of people who were born, married or died in Scotland, or who were living in Scotland on the date of a census.

Military archives are not part of the holdings of the NRS. They are generally held either by the UK National Archives or by individual military units. This is why Scotland's People doesn't have detailed records of soldiers' careers.

It does have records of the deaths of many military personnel with Scottish connections who died outwith Scotland, but it only has the information supplied by the military authorities and forwarded to the NRS by them as it has no other means of formally collecting information about events that did not occur in Scotland. The military authorities, like the General Register Office in England and Wales, do not include in death records the names of the parents of military personnel who died furth of Scotland.

Great supporting piece to clarify for others - Thanks

The 55th Infantry Brigade, along with the rest of the 18th Division, was sent to Singapore in 1942 where it surrendered to the Imperial Japanese Army in the short but violent Battle of Singapore. The men of the brigade would spend the next three years as Japanese prisoners in harsh and degrading imprisonment.

Quoted from Wikipedia see link for a better understanding
"The Fall of Singapore, also known as the Battle of Singapore,[c] took place in the South–East Asian theatre of the Pacific War. The Empire of Japan captured the British stronghold of Singapore, with fighting lasting from 8 to 15 February 1942. Singapore was the foremost British military base and economic port in South–East Asia and had been of great importance to British interwar defence strategy. The capture of Singapore resulted in the largest British surrender in its history."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Singapore

I would be of the opinion that John was caught up in this conflict and became a POW after the 15th Feb 1942.

Given he was being transported in a POW transport ship September 1944 that would see John subjected to abt 2.5 years of captivity under very harsh conditions (Like many others)

Hi team thanks for the details shared.. and the kind wishes ..
I wonder if there is more detail on John Robertson's military career.
I am disappointed with the death registration of military personnel in Scotland's death records. I attach Johns death registration and it is detailed with no alignment to his roots / address in Scotland..
I wonder if there are any records through military archives that shed some more direct alignment to his roots .. Are there 2nd WW enlistment records to pick up? I also attach after viewing clues what is a fair possible birth registration .. A bit of a clue is the age v the number of John Robertsons and alignment to HutchesonTown / Gorbals area in Glasgow. Johns best friend (My grandfather was 253 Florence Street).. Hanging out at the corner ... ? Tonies?
Would be grateful if there are any military archives that can shed more light and help me confirm correct family alignment of this John Robertson ..


Thanks