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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: LILLICRAP/TREEVE
« on: Friday 17 February 12 09:03 GMT (UK)  »
How very interesting...

Your contact will have been Arthur Carden, who gave me very interesting information that clearly he had got from you about the Impey family.  He descends from one of my great-grandfather's sisters and is a mine of information on the Knight family.

What a fascinating story.  Clearly the young Charles Hastings, married with children, had to make his own way and Australia was the place.  I had a great-great aunt on my mother's side whose husband went out to South Africa at about the same time.  We have albums of Durban and other towns in South Africa from the 1850s and 1860s which shows them to be little more than a few shacks and a main street. 

I'm sorry that his children were orphaned so young.  Who looked after them?

I would be fascinated to know what happened to Charles Hastings' siblings.  Names and dates need to be complemented by the human stories. 

I am indeed delighted to have made contact with an Australian cousin! 

With best wishes

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: LILLICRAP/TREEVE
« on: Wednesday 15 February 12 22:21 GMT (UK)  »
This is very interesting.

Charles Hastings Treeve was my great-grandfather's second cousin.  I would be very interested to know more about him and about his brothers and sisters.  What did they do?

I've always wondered how close Mrs Treeve was to her Impey/Knight relations.  She had a maternal aunt, Mrs Charles Fuller, who lived in Regency Square, Brighton and died in the 1860s in her 90s.  She was rich and childless.  Mrs Treeve's uncle, Robert Knight, also lived to a great age.  I was interested to see that one of the names she gave her eldest daughter was Georgiana, which was the name of her Knight first cousin, Mrs King.   

Do the Treeve family still have links with Jersey?

Lord Catherlough entailed his property in a complicated trust.  The entail was broken some 150 years ago when there was a disputed succession.  Had it not been, I would be the present tenant for life of the 7000 acres - and after my death (since I have no sons) the next heir would have been the male heir of Mrs Treeve's mother, Mrs Nicholson.  Mrs Nicholson's elder son, Maj Henry Impey, had a relationship with an Indian lady by whom he had a son.  If he had married her, that son's Anglo-Indian descendants would have been in for a nice surprise on my death!   

   

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: LILLICRAP/TREEVE
« on: Tuesday 31 January 12 09:43 GMT (UK)  »
How very interesting!

It's reassuring that the Treeve family were not shipwrecked at the time of Amelia's marriage - presumably some time in the mid-1840s.

The story of Marian's daughter Barbara Impey (Searle) is told in "About the Impeys" a book by Mrs E.A. Impey, published in 1963.

Apparently this old lady, Barbara Impey, died in Sydney, Australia in 1926 without any known relations.  She was found to have some £1000 hidden away in cash in the house but was otherwise destitute.  Advertisements were put in the papers to discover relations, but with no result.  According to a lady who befriended her, she said that she had been born in Jersey, and that her father was a clergyman.  She said that her mother had never liked her and that, when her mother married, she was afraid of her stepfather.  When she was about 25, her mother had sent her to Australia with £1000, telling her not to come back and not to spend the £1000 until she couldn't work any more.  She seems to have kept it all her life!  She had earned money by doing washing for the family of the lady who told her story, and had otherwise sold magazines door to door.  She could read and write, but was otherwise very simple and innocent - and suffered from deafness.   

In the 1871 census, she was known as Barbara Impey Searle, but in Australia she was known just as Barbara Impey.,

Marian Treeve had several children by Searle, but they could not be traced. Barbara's £1000 is still lodged with the Australian authorities!

With best wishes for your continuing researches


           

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: LILLICRAP/TREEVE
« on: Monday 30 January 12 22:39 GMT (UK)  »
I was most interested by your post about Amelia Treeve and Robert Lillicrap. 

Amelia belongs to a branch of my family that currently intrigues me.  Her mother, Matilda Impey, married Capt Richard Treeve in Cornwall in 1813.  Her father, Capt Michael Impey, was the eldest son of Sir Elijah Impey, the Chief Justice of Bengal during Warren Hastings' time there.  Her mother, Henrietta Knight, was the natural daughter of the 1st & last Earl of Catherlough.

I descend from Henrietta's elder brother, Robert Knight, who was Lord Catherlough's heir.  He inherited some 7000 acres in Montgomeryshire and Warwickshire, and lived very comfortably in a house in Grosvenor Square. His daughter and heiress married Edward Bolton King, of Chadshunt, Warwickshire - they were my great-great-grandparents.

The Impey/Treeves were known to the Kings as poor relations, but something seemed to go very badly wrong with them.  Amelia's younger sister, Marion, had an illegitimate daughter in 1850 - possibly/probably by the local vicar, Rev William Corbet le Breton, who was Lily Langtry's father.  The daughter left for Australia in around 1875 where she led a pretty miserable life.  The whole Treeves family seem to have disappeared from Jersey about that time, and Marion Treeves (now Searle) next appears as a children's nurse in Islington.   

Can you throw any light on this?  Where do you fit in?

   

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