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Gloucestershire / Re: MILLINER family
« on: Saturday 28 January 12 18:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Dave,

Thanks for your reply.

Here are some other questions and comments and perhaps info. that is new:

I do have some questions, and comments:

1.  How do we know that Jacob was the son of Isaac Milliner?

     I have seen this stated in a number of places on the internet, but it's difficult to know if I'm in an echo chamber, or whether these other postings are a repeat of a single statement.  I'm hoping that  you can give me a definitive source reference.  Also, I have seen posts that say Jacob was born in c. 1739, and his wife Mary in c. 1743.  Again, I'm hoping you can give me sources.

2.  I have located an online facsimile of a book published in the early 1900s that is a transcript of marriages in various Wilts. parishes.

     The Isaac Milliner marriage at Yatton Keynell parish is available here:

              Isaac's wife is listed as Mary Bazer in this transcript, but there were people named Beazer, Bezer etc. in this parish, so it's possible that the transcript in the book is incorrect.

3.  Other possible Milliner relatives marrying at Leigh Delamere or Yatton Keynell:

    3a.  There is a marriage of Mary Millener to a Richard Smith in Leigh Delamere on 08/06/1770.  Likely a Milliner relative.

    3b.  There is a marriage of Rebecca Milliner to Thomas Smith on 08/02/1797 at Leigh Delamere

            3c.  There is a marriage of Mary Milliner to a William Hobbs on 12/09/1797 at Yatton Keynell:
       
4.  Possible Second marriage of Jacob Milliner

   
     From this, it appears that Jacob may have married a second time.  Do you have any info. on this?

Regards,

M@rtyn

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Gloucestershire / Re: MILLINER family
« on: Friday 27 January 12 18:55 GMT (UK)  »
Davierj,

I noticed you are researching Jones in West Wales.

I am descended from Thomas Jones (b. Julky, 1801) in Penboyr nr. Newcastle Emlyn. Later in the mid 1800s, he owned Aberlleinau farm.

Any connection?

Thanks.

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Gloucestershire / Re: MILLINER family
« on: Friday 27 January 12 18:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Davierj & Nicola,

Thnks for such quick replies.

Nicola:

My wife and I were born in the Rhondda, married in the Rhondda, but emigrated to California 50 years ago.  My mother moved to Sketty and we kept her flat after she died so we stay there every summer.
Coincidentally, my wife encountered a Cyril Milliner (now deceased) in Swansea and he was her first cousin.  They shared grandparents, Robert H. Milliner (b. Patchway, 1856) & Sarah E. Milliner.  As a further coincidence, Cyril was the boss of our next door neighbour in Swansea.

Nicola & Davierj:

This is what we believe to be my wife's lineage:

Isaac (b. 1739, in Leigh Delamere, Wilts.) & Mary (Beazer?)
    |
Jacob (b. 1775, in Church Yatton,) & Mary (Tyler)
    |
Robert (b. 04/02/1816, in Almondsbury, Glos.) & Sarah (Iles)
    |
Robert Henry (b. 1856 in Almondsbury, Glos.) & Sarah Ellen (Thomas)

Said Robert Henry is my wife's grandfather.

After Robert H. died, in the early 1900s, Sarah moved to the Rhondda fach with five sons, all of whom ended up in the mines.

We're pretty certain of the lineage back to Jacob because of birthplaces and residences stated in census records from 1841 to 1911, and other oral family history.  Robert (b. 1816) was still living with Jacob in 1851 when Jacob was 76 and Robert was 34.  Robert married Sarah in 1852.

So, Nicola, Jacob is your 3g.grandfather, and is my wife's 2g.grandfather.  That makes you and my wife 3rd cousins, once removed.  Your mother is my wife's 3rd cousin.

As to Isaac (1739), we obtained that info. from a forum post by Brian Milliner.

Davierj:
Interestingly, your ancestor, Robert Milliner, moved to Pentre and worked as a miner, just like my wife's dad & uncles in Rhondda Fach.  My wife's dad died more than 60 years ago but my wife has no recollection of her Dad mentioning a cousin in Pentre.  There were quite a few Milliners in the Rhondda fach.

However, given the Glos. connections., I suspect that you and my wife share a common ancestor - maybe Isaac (b. 1739) , or further back.

Thanks again for helping me out.

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Gloucestershire / Re: MILLINER family
« on: Friday 27 January 12 01:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nicola,

Thanks for your useful info. re the Milliners.

My wife, Joan's g.g.g.grandparents were Isaac & Mary Milliner.

Her g.g.grandparents were Jacob & Mary Milliner

We can go no further back than that.

We live in California, but we spend a couple of months in Swansea every year.

I did notice that a Brian Milliner (who has also provided a lot of Milliner info.) lives in Swansea and we'll try to contact him this summer.

Thanks again

Martyn

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