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 ;D  Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!  Twins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Don't know why I overlooked this James.............I've been through my notes but can't find any notes saying why.  But you are right it certainly looks as if this is the family..............by jove Bryant I think you cracked it  ;D  I'll send for the cert.

Many thanks again.

If I can return the favor with any lookups let me know.

Debbie

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Hi Bryant, you are uncovering interesting stuff! 

No any Dix family from Ampthill are not (at least I believe) the family of James.  I did spend time following many of these families and can to the conclusion that they are not related.  But of course I could be wrong :-[  However, I did come across a DIX family in Holborn who could be related.  And as I mentioned I went through the BMD records looking for DIX members in Edmonton and there were definately some there but I cannot make the link.  I should perhaps go back and explore that further.

Perhaps Henrietta is from another child that I haven't found yet.  I do know that Emily Caroline was the mother of Frances Lilian born 1881, no father shown. 

All of the women were at some time occupied as straw bonnet makers on Fishpool Street where several large straw hat factories were situated.  My grandfather had mentioned that to me.

Ok I looked at the 1851 census and cannot find a Mary that fits born in Bucks do I will have to spend more time on it .

I think it's back to the drawing board for me!

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Thank you Bryant.  I think I will try to get one of the childrens birth early birth certs to see if I can get the mothers name.  My ggrandfather was Walter Andrew Dix and his other is shown as Betsy Hawkins on his birth cert.  Your point about Elizabeth & Betsy maybe being 2 different people is a good one - thanks for giving it a fresh eye.

Debbie

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Hi Bryant,

Thank you for your help. The child born in 1852 was Emily Caroline Dix often known as Caroline.  All of the children were born in St Albans, Herts. 
In 1851 James was single and living alone in St Albans, Herts on St Peters Street.  He is 25 and a painter. 
In 1861 he is shown as James W. Dix living with Elizabeth Dix and children Eliza, Emily C, Henry, James W., & John E in St Albans.  This is the only time Betsy is shown as Elizabeth and the only time she is shown as being born in St Albans, Herts.  I can only conclude that someone else other that Betsy answered the census.  James is shown as being born in Edmonton Middlesex.  As I said he always gave Edmonton as his place of birth.  I have found other Dix families in Edmonton but cannot link him to them.  And the name is definately Dix but is sometimes spelt as Dicks.
Thanks, Debbie

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Thank you so much for replying.  I did look in the 1841 census eventually but could not determine which James Dix was the right one, there were 2 of them that could have been him.  He was born in Edmonton Middlesex according to every other census between 1821 - 1826 and he married an Elizabeth/Betsy Hawkins from Hichin Herts.  I cannot find a record of marriage but it was after the 1851 census was taken.  Their first child was born in 1852 but of course they could have married any time.  He died on March 15th 1883 at St Albans, it was in the Herts Advertiser and I have a copy of the death cert.  Betsy was dead by then as a daughter whom I think was Anne Dix but was named as Anny Hendson from Tottenham attended the death. James & Betsy had 11 children.  And that's all i know about him.
Debbie

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Somerset / Re: Toogoods in Somerset
« on: Thursday 04 January 07 19:11 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there Sarah, 

I took a look at your info and I think you have the wrong lead.  In the 1841 census (the page is very hard to read), if you magnify the page you can see that the father of William was a William also and that he says Yes to having been born in Hampshire as do the rest of the family. 

I also saw that in 1851 a woman visitor from Dorset was visiting the family so perhaps they just happened to know people in Somerset & Dorset.  Perhaps the William in Templecombe was a cousin?  Overton is defiantly in Hampshire and has been there since very times.  In every other census it says Overton, Hampshire so I think the Wilts was just an error.

If you still think it's the William from Somerset why don't you track him as see if can disprove him.  That's what I usually do when not sure of a track.

Debbie

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Somerset / Re: Toogoods in Somerset
« on: Tuesday 14 June 05 23:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi Daryl,

I have TOOGOODs in my tree but they come originated from Arundel in Sussex.  I was aware of all of the TOOGOODs in Somerset (used to live there) but thought that they also originated from Sussex.

I do have the following details of the name if that is of interest to you.

The origins of the name TOOGOOD are English & Scandinavian.  THOROUGHGOOD, THROWGOOD, THOROGODD, TWOGOOD are all variations of the same name.  The name reflects personal or moral qualities and are in the same vein as GOOD, GOODCHILD, ALLGOOD & GOODENOUGH.

Some of the earliest records in England are found in Hertfordshire where they were descended from THURGOOD, who was recorded in the Domesday Book in 1086, and the name has often been confounded with TOOGOOD.  TOOGOOD has also been found as early as 700 AD in Scotland and also in Norway as TOGOD (Too Proud).

Debbie

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Please would someone look up in the 1841 Middlesex census, James William DIX in Edmonton, Middlesex, he was born abt. 1825.

Many thanks. Debbie

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