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Mayo / Who is Margaret Gallagher O'Malley's mother - Bridget or Ellen?
« on: Saturday 19 January 13 15:50 GMT (UK)  »
My great grandparents are Owen O'Malley and Margaret Gallagher of Keel East, Achill, County Mayo.  I know from their 1886 marriage certificate that Margaret's father was Hugh Gallagher.  I have found Owen and Margaret in both the 1901 and 1911 census (Keel East, Achill, Slievemore, Mayo).  In the 1901 census, two of their sons, Owen and John were not listed.  I believe I have found them listed as staying with Ellen Gallagher, Widow, aged 62 of Dooinkelly (Calvey), Achill, County Mayo.  They are listed as her grandsons and their ages of 9 and 6 match those of the sons of Owen and Margaret.  Presumably, as she is a widow, this Ellen was not born a Gallagher.

However, when searching for records of Margaret's birth and mother, I was able to find a baptism record which appears to be hers.  It has Margaret being baptised in North Mayo in 1858 (consistent with her age in the 1911 census although not the 1901 census but I understand these are often erroneous) with her father as Hugh Gallagher and mother Bridget Gallagher.

I have also found a marriage record of Hugh Gallagher and Bridget Gallagher having married in Achill North Mayo in 1849.  There is also a record of a Hugh Gallagher marrying a Elenor Califf in Achill in 1843 but this Elenor seems to be too young to have been Margaret's mother - unless Margaret's age in the 1911 census is correct and the 1901 census wrong).

To complicate matters, one of the witnesses at Owen O'Malley (spelt Malia in the record) and Margaret's Gallagher's wedding is Bridget Gallagher.  The other is John Malia (O'Malley). Meanwhile, one of the godparents of Owen and Margaret's son Patrick (my grandad) born in 1888 is Ellen Gallagher.  The other is John  Cafferkey.

Who is Margaret's mother?  If it is Bridget, who is Ellen and why is she listed in the 1901 census as the grandmother of Margaret and Owen's son's Owen and John O'Malley (spelt Malley in the census)?

Can anyone help unravel this as I can't seen to get any further up the Gallagher tree until I work this one out.  Incidentally, Owen and Margaret's marriage certificate list Owen's father as Owen O'Malley as well but I can't find any record of him either - or Owen's mother for that matter.

Can anyone help - particularly with the Ellen/Bridget puzzle?

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Australia / Re: New South Wales - Death - John Hanlon - Lookup please
« on: Friday 30 November 12 10:32 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all.  I have order 3 Hanlon certs by the transcription service and will see what eventuates.  I appreciate your assistance.

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Galway / Re: HANLON/HANLAN - John, Mary and Kate
« on: Friday 30 November 12 10:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Tara and Heywood.   I appreciate your replies. Those individuals might be related to my Hanlons, but until I can find birth certificates or records of John, Mary and Kate's immigration to Australia I can't verify.  The search goes on ....

kind regards, Debra

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Australia / New South Wales - Death - John Hanlon - Lookup please
« on: Wednesday 28 November 12 10:38 GMT (UK)  »

I am looking for records of my GG John Hanlon/Hanlan/Hanlin.  I believe he was born in Ireland and came to Australia in the 1800s.  His daughter Catherine (also known as Kate Caroline) was born in Clifden, Ireland in about 1865 and so he would have come to Australia some time after that and before her marriage in 1889 (in Victoria). I have reason to believe that he lived in Hay, NSW. I also believe his wife's name was Mary.

I have found an entry in the NSW BDM which might be my GG grandfather.
5695/1900  HANLON  JOHN  Father - JEREMIAH  Mother ANNIE  Place of death - HAY   

Is someone able to look this up for me so that I can determine if it is my GG grandfather?  If so, I can then purchase the certificate.

Thank you.

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Armagh / Re: McMahens in Armagh
« on: Wednesday 14 November 12 13:00 GMT (UK)  »
I should add that having obtained a copy of William's death certificate it seems more likely that he came to Victoria around 1840 rather than 1820. It also seems likely that James and Ann were his parents.

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Armagh / McMahens in Armagh
« on: Tuesday 13 November 12 12:53 GMT (UK)  »
My ancestor William Moore McMahen born about 1811 in Armagh ,possibly the son of James McMahen and Ann Moore.  According to an Australian Encyclopaedia article, William, and most likely his parents, came to Australia in 1820 although I can find no record of it.

William married Margaret Keys from the Keys family of Tyrone in Melbourne in 1846 (in the Presbyterian Church) and died in Melbourne in 1892.

I am looking for records of William's birth and emigration to Australia as well as any records of his parents or any brothers or sisters or extended family in Ireland.

Can anyone help me?

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Mayo / Re: Patrick O'Malley and Percy White - Australian relatives looking for help
« on: Monday 16 January 12 12:14 GMT (UK)  »
I have now been able to confirm that the family in Keel East, Achill are in fact my grandfather Patrick, his parents and brothers and sisters.  However I have not been able to discover the maiden name of Patrick's mother Margaret, nor her parents or those of Patrick's father Owen and so I cannot trace the family back any further.  I have also not been able to find any record of Patrick O'Malley emigrating to Australia although I know he did between 1911 and 1919.  Patrick's brother Hugh also emigrated to Cairns, Queensland, Australia but again no record of it.

I have been able to find a record of Patrick's brother Edward O'Malley and Edward's son Owen in Luton, Bedfordshire in 1948-50.  Edward O'Malley married a Lovelle girl but I don't know which one and when, or how they ended up in Luton from Achill in County Mayo.  I have found Edward's son Owen's immigration papers showing him emigrating to Queensland to live with my grandfather Patrick in 1950.  From there I know he went to New Zealand but I can't find a record of it.

I also know that Patrick's sister Mary died sometime between the 1901 and 1911 census but not when or how.

Any help anyone can give me to find more details of Patrick, his parents Owen and Margaret O'Malley and his many brothers and sisters would be very welcome!

thanks
debrao

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Australia / Re: George William CHURCH Victoria Australia
« on: Monday 16 January 12 09:01 GMT (UK)  »
Aileen I've only just come across this thread so forgive me if you have the info by now.

George William Church was my great, great grandfather.  He died in Coolup, Western Australia on 13 Sept 1937.  It appears that he and Ernestina came to WA and Mary Elizabeth Church (nee Meyer) and the rest of the family stayed in Victoria and most of them ultimately moved to QLD when Mary married Alan Barr in 1900.  This is a very complicated family and it has taken me a long time to work them out, or at least most of them.

George married Jane Moore in WA in 1903 and his marriage certificate lists him as widower, when in fact Mary was still alive, and by that time, married to Alan.  I can find no record of a divorce anywhere in Australia.

Also, Hannah Craxton was born illegitimate to Elizabeth Craxton in Northamptonshire.  When Hannah was 7, her mother married George Smart.  Hannah's death certificate lists "George Craxton" as her father but there is no such person.  Her father is unknown, but George Smart was her stepfather.   Incidentally, George William Church's marriage certificate to Jane Moore lists Hannah Smart has his mother.  As she died when he was 3 or 4 years old, he probably never knew that she was not George Smart's biological daughter.

If you have any info you'd like to share on the Church/Craxtons let me know.  I also have quite a bit more info if you are missing any.
regards
debrao

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Australia / Re: Western Australia - George CHURCH - Ernestina CHURCH
« on: Wednesday 11 January 12 04:29 GMT (UK)  »
Church marriage certificates reduced size.

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