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Cheshire / Re: ellis familyfrom frodsham to garston
« on: Thursday 29 March 12 15:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi  lesls Sorry not been in touch had a lot of things going on including a new Grandson Archie Grant Horsfall mother and baby doing great'   Now inanswer to some of your questions  Joans maiden name was Gavin. She married Joseph Wilfred they had 3 children Jean Stephen and Susan sadly Stephen died in an accident in 1977 aged 22.sorry carry on of the name went from that line there.  Gwen who married John Stanley Maiden name was Reeves. had 4 children John who carries on the Ellis name then Anne Jane and Elaine. John has got a son Stephen so thename has carried on even further. Hilda was Married to James Cluskey. they had Patrick (Pat). Margo real name (philomeana) married John Oniel.had 4 children John Peter Michael and Susan. Nora married Harold Sumner had 1 child Tony. and my mum Frances married Archie Grant had 2 children myself Margaret and my brother Ian.John being the only one carrying  on the Ellis name He lives in Holywell, in Wales Uncle Stan and Gwen as we knew them movedthere in the 70's I think, from Widnes. Wilf and Joan and Stan and Gwen both ran public houses. Hope this helps youI have ordered a copy of Ann Worrall and Charles Ellis marriage certificate but not arrived yet will let you know any deatails on it that may be of use to you. regards to you all Margaret

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Cheshire / Re: ellis familyfrom frodsham to garston
« on: Wednesday 07 March 12 23:42 GMT (UK)  »
Have spoke to mum but dosnt recall a Thomas Ellis Thomas is a Welsh name so maybe a connection there somewhere regards Margaret

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Cheshire / Re: ellis familyfrom frodsham to garston
« on: Saturday 03 March 12 18:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi havnt got a Thomas in my tree. Ellis is quite a popular name in the area as it is Welsh and Wales is quite near  will ask mum but not heard of a Thomas regarrds Margaret

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Cheshire / Re: ellis familyfrom frodsham to garston
« on: Saturday 21 January 12 22:17 GMT (UK)  »
HI lesls I cant recall any one saying that Samuel was in the army but will check for you Mum dosnt recall any Marthas in the family,  Ibelieve that Elizabeths father built a bridge in Widnes not sure if it is still there though.  Mum seems to know all about them even down to knowing that they lived in a street called Fredrick above a shop called Bradleys ! Joseph worked what is now known as I C I. use to be Musprats and then  it became Musprats and Deacons when he was there.  I am going to Widnes at the end of the week as unfortunately Patricks father died. Iam not sure how garstonite is connected to the family or if he is maybe he could supply a few more details and I will check with mum,  does the name Mary Pitkin mean anything to you as she seems to be tracing the American side of the family as well she sent me photos of Sarah and two of Samuels sisters regards Margaret
regards Margaret

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Cheshire / Re: ellis familyfrom frodsham to garston
« on: Saturday 21 January 12 22:02 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: lesls on Friday 20 January 12 00:25 GMT (UK)
horsfalls, hi margaret thanks for the response.i am sorry for the delay in answering. i will try to answer your questions 1st.my father bn april 7 1907 in liverpool was a veteranian, hewas probably the one called leslie. yes i have a sister who was a member of the fleetwoods. my gf joseph.. bn may 9 1879 in widness married elizabeth hignett bn in farnsworth in sep  1879 in garston in 1904. her father was in the building business, my gf had a butcher shop in garston. my gf, gm, and my father crossed to canada about 1913. he ended in puyullup, washington, where he opened a butcher shop. my fatherbecame avet andsoon  after i was born jan 24, 1936 he moved to olympia washington and opened his vet hospital i was joseph leslie jr.
my gf  rarely spoke of his father except he didd say he had some type and lost an arm.sarah came to the states with 3 of  her daughters.and settled in tacoma.  buy the way, did samuel  ever serve in the british  army?  and is it possible  that you are getting garstonite line with mine more later.

les

                     

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Cheshire / Re: ellis familyfrom frodsham to garston
« on: Monday 09 January 12 17:02 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: HORSFALLS on Wednesday 04 January 12 18:51 GMT (UK)
to lesls Hi have speaking to mum is your father the vet?,  and have you a sister.  We live in Essex about 200 miles from Widnes my mum married and moved this way in 1946 but all the family stayed very close. The cousin my mum wrote to was Mary Wickersham Annies daughter who married Launor Carter and they had one son. She didnt know that the sisters and her Uncle Joe as she referred to him didnt get on.  Annie came over here to see my Grandfather about 1969. I remeber Mary and Launor bringing her. I beleive Joseph had a butchers shop in Garston. My grandfather also had a butchers shop in Widnes, Samuels mother was Sarah Ratcliffe she went to America about 1912.Joseph didnt go with her he lived with Samuel and Beatrice. Mum said he had sort of accident and only had one arm so maybe that was something to do with it. I amsure if yoiu want anymore information mumcould provide it she has a terrific memory. She said do you a know anything about a Sir Henry Leigh of the Leigh Estates I beleive there was a bit of a scandle there lol regards Margaret

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Cheshire / Re: ellis familyfrom frodsham to garston
« on: Monday 09 January 12 16:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi from the details you have mentioned dont think it is the same family my mother dosnt know of any Mathas in the family regards Margaret

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Cheshire / Re: ellis familyfrom frodsham to garston
« on: Wednesday 04 January 12 18:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi have speaking to mum is (*) your father the vet?,  and have you a sister (*) who was in a group called the Fleetwoods.  Elizabeth Higgnet( aunt lizzie as she was known to my mum and siblings) came from Hough Green, her father was a builder and lived over a shop called Bradleys in Fredrick Street Widnes. He apparently built a bridge in Widnes my cousin is going to look for it.  We live in Essex about 200 miles from Widnes my mum married (*) and moved this way in 1946 but all the family stayed very close. The cousin my mum wrote to was (*) Annies daughter who married (*) andhad one son. She didnt know that the sisters and her Uncle Joe as she referred to him didnt get on.  Annie came over here to see my Grandfather about 1969.  I beleive Joseph had a butchers shop in Garston. My grandfather also had a butchers shop in Widnes, Samuels mother was Sarah Ratcliffe she went to America about 1912.Joseph didnt go with her he lived with Samuel and Beatrice. Mum said he had sort of accident and only had one arm so maybe that was something to do with it. I amsure if yoiu want anymore information mumcould provide it she has a terrific memory. She said do you anything about a Sir Henry Leigh of the Leigh Estates I beleive there was a bit of a scandle there lol regards Margaret

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Cheshire / Re: ellis familyfrom frodsham to garston
« on: Thursday 29 December 11 19:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi I have been reading through you messages as my cousin had a notification from you I am the daughter of Frances Ellis, who is the daughter of Samuel Ellis Frances is still living if you want any information. I have also had a contact from and Mary Pitkin I dont know if that is any help to you. Apart from Margo whose real name is Philomena they are the 0nly two remaining surviors mum is 95 and Margo is 80. mum has the most knowledge as she use to write to a cousin in America Mary Carter in California single name was Wickersham you are welcome to contact regards Margaret

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