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Thanks for your reply.  I did see the McPadden brothers in lodgings and wondered whether they were brothers/cousins of Margaret McPadden.

Since my previous posting I've found the marriage in Hartlepool of Daniel Barr and Margaret Padden.  They married at St Mary's RC Church, Hartlepool on 9th January 1860. 

Daniel Barr's father was John Barr a general labourer and Margaret Padden/McPadden's father was William Padden also a general labourer.  The witnesses were David McInilley?  and Anne Kelly.  Daniel Barr was residing at Tennant Street, West Hartlepool and Margaret Padden at South Street, W Hartlepool.

Their first child was Ellen Barr born in Hartlepool (poss Ann St) in 1861, their second Betsy born in Greenock, Scotland in 1863 and Margaret born 1865 in Ropery Lane Sunderland. Then their first son John William Barr (named after grandfathers) also Ropery Lane, Sarah born 1874 Burligh Street, Mary Ann 1877 Line? Street and Daniel 1882. Nesham Square?  Except for the two oldest and youngest Daniel they were all baptised at St Patricks, Sunderland

Margaret died in 1889 in Sunderland.

Does any of your McPaddens have parents William and Ellen/Betsy? - going by the irish/scottish naming patterns that could be Margaret's parents names.

I don't know whether Daniel and Margaret knew each other before coming to Hartlepool. Or what made them go to Hartlepool from Ireland and then Greenock and finally to Sunderland?

Thanks Joe

Yes I have those names and spouses and also the parents of each of them. (thanks to Scotlandspeople now having OPR images).

Duncan's father is Archibald McGilthighnich of Islay
Neil's father is John McGilthighnich of Islay
Janet & Catherine's father is John Shaw from North Knapdale

Duncan & Neil used the McGilthighnich or Shaw name for awhile and then anglicised it completely to Shaw.

In trying to find Duncan's father I am stuck because I don't know when Duncan was born or died or when his father Archibald McGilthighnich was married and to whom.

Hi Kev

Please could you do a lookup for me in the casualties of the Crimea and Indian Mutiny?

I can't find a JOHN MCLAREN of 71st Regiment of Foot

who we think died 1856-1861 possibly in Crimea, Malta or India as we can't find death in UK.

There's no Service Docs at Kew for him only his name in Muster Book of Regiment but there's 2 of them with same name who seem to come and go at will.

Have found his friends in the 71st Regiment -  THOMAS FARMER on the Indian Mutiny Medal list who later  married John's widow in 1861.  Found only Thomas's brother HUGH FARMER's service docs who was in the Crimea but not India.

Hope you can find him for us.

Thanks

I have a Barbara Hope born 1830 in Berwick upon Tweed.

Her parents were John and Margaret HOPE nee Slight/Sleight who lived at Crawford's Alley, Berwick in 1830.  He was a pitman.

There's another entry for a son Thomas HOPE son of John and Margaret Hope in May 1831 (not sure if same family).  John was listed as a blacksmith of Nesbits Lane, Berwick.

The only death I can find for Margaret HOPE in either Berwick/Glendale (now found Glendale is same area) was in June 1847.  Two John Hopes died in Sept 1841 and June 1842 in Glendale so am sending off for these certificates.

Barbara married in 1847 at the Lamberton Toll

Would be very grateful for a 1841 census lookup for John, Margaret, Barbara and possibly Thomas HOPE around Berwick/Glendale area.

Thanks got in there.

Saw the McPadden birth of James will check it out.  Could well be a cousin of Ellen Barr born 1860 (in our tree).  

Had heard that families tended to move in family groups so its quite possible.  There's a couple of McPaddens in Durham during the 1881 census not far from Daniel & Margaret.

The other thing is if they originated from Ireland how did they get to Hartlepool?

Thanks again.

Were there ships that went from say N.Ireland to Hartlepool or would they have travelled across land from say Liverpool?