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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Born at Sea Reg'd in Middlesex - brickwall
« on: Saturday 24 December 22 19:23 GMT (UK)  »
His father was a grinder which at the time, ties in with links to Sheffield Steelworks.  However, I am puzzled why his son would be born at sea unless there were links to the EITC.

Still not made any headway with this despite looking 'around' the family for links i.e. relatives who may have been living at any of his census addresses.  Was there an 1831 census in any shape or form?

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Born at Sea Reg'd in Middlesex - brickwall
« on: Wednesday 07 December 11 21:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there, the Richard R. Pryor born in 1847 is his son. The only census records I can find are for him as an adult yes, no parental information.  Both marriage certificates state that his father, Charles was a grinder.

I also thought about the India connection and looked into the East India Trading records but so far no joy.

Intriguing thought about the houseboats - I like that. :)

Liz

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Born at Sea Reg'd in Middlesex - brickwall
« on: Tuesday 06 December 11 22:04 GMT (UK)  »
In his first marriage, his witnesses were W.Lawrence and what looks like J. Hudson (copy is very poor)
Second marriage, his witnesses were William Wilson and Annie Ward.

Regards
Liz

Quote from: AMBLY on Saturday 03 December 11 23:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Liz

I see on one Census, his pob is stated to be Calcutta.

Did Richard's marriage cert state an occupation for his father (did Richard marry twice? If do both records state the same information for his father?)

Also, who were the witness' to the marriage(s).

Cheers
AMBLY



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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Born at Sea Reg'd in Middlesex - brickwall
« on: Tuesday 06 December 11 22:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, and thanks for your assistance with this, I have both marriage certificates but he married Sarah Lawrence in July 1839 not Sarah Shepherd (I hit this wrong track early on). His certificate states he was 19 when he married Sarah which would put his birth at 1820, but then his 2nd marriage in 1876 states he was 54 so that would take his birth to 1822.  I'm not sure if Calcutta is the name of the ship or the departure/destination.

Quote from: avm228 on Saturday 03 December 11 23:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Liz and a warm welcome to Rootschat :)

The censuses for Richard are a bit all over the place as to his birth, aren't they?

1841: Richd PRYOR, 20, born in county (Yorkshire)
1851: Richd Robinson PRYOR, 30 Born on the Sea (HO107/2338/337/30)
1861: Richard R PRYOR, 39, b Middlesex London (RG9/3474/41/33)
1871: Richard PRYOR, 50, b High Seas Calcutta British Subject (RG10/4681/152/8)
1881: Richard R PRYOR, 59, Born on sea (RG11/4636/108/31)
1891: Richard R PRYOR, 69, b Calcutta (RG12/3808/42/31)

[Died aged 75, Jun qtr 1896 Ecclesall Bierlow as Richard Robinson PRYOR]

I see that he married twice - first to Sarah SHEPHERD in 1839 and then to Henrietta STOREY in 1876.  Which of the marriage certificates do you have?  

He seems to be PRYOR rather than PRIOR in all the records so far other than the first marriage.

Will see what else I can see.

Anna :)

Edited: Hi Ambly - sorry for cross-post!

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Born at Sea Reg'd in Middlesex - brickwall
« on: Saturday 03 December 11 21:44 GMT (UK)  »
I'm trying to track down the birth record of my great great grandfather.  He is on various census' as being born at sea/born on the sea 'british subject' but one of the census said born at sea, birth reg'd at Middlesex.  I have done various searches on various family search sites and cannot find a birth record for him.  He is called Richard Robinson Prior (Pryor) and was born approx 1822, his father (according to his marriage cert) is called Charles Prior, but I don't have any record of his mother.  I'm not sure if Robinson is a middle name or the first part of a double-barrel surname.  I have checked marriage records for a Robinson and Pryor but with no joy.  I wonder if anyone can help either with Middlesex baptism or birth records.  He later went on to live in Sheffield so I'm not sure if his parents came from Middlesex or Sheffield.

Any help is much appreciated as I've been hitting my head against this brickwall for nearly a year.

Regards
Liz

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