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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Herbert Paine & Elizabeth Sophia Hemstrich
« on: Wednesday 24 April 24 11:28 BST (UK)  »
My grandfather is Cyril Herbert Paine b 16 Apr 1903 at Sevenoaks. He transferred from the RN to the RAN in the 1930s. And that's where our mob come in. My father is Edward Albert Paine b 16 Jun 1938. I'm Ian Michael Paine 11 Apr 1964.

I had a decent ancestry.com tree going but got stuck after a few bum steers.. and then didn't renew the subscription.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Herbert Paine & Elizabeth Sophia Hemstrich
« on: Wednesday 24 April 24 10:26 BST (UK)  »
Andy

Only just seen this as I was searching for some details after a long long sabbatical from family history research.

Ian Paine

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Herbert Paine & Elizabeth Sophia Hemstrich
« on: Saturday 03 December 11 10:48 GMT (UK)  »
and then a daughter* (1914).

*I'm not posting the youngest daughter's name as she may still be alive, but her 1914 birth can be found on FreeBMD. 

thanks for that - found the daughter passed away in 1969,

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Herbert Paine & Elizabeth Sophia Hemstrich
« on: Saturday 03 December 11 10:43 GMT (UK)  »
Herbert seems to have enlisted with the Grenadier Guards in June 1889.  He gave his age as 19 years 1 month, occupation labourer, already belonged to 1st V/B Dorset Regiment.

Height 5ft 8in, weight 121 lb, chest 34.25 in, fresh complexion, grey eyes, dark brown hair. Dark hairy moles on right thing and left side of neck.
 
Next of kin were parents Stephen and Mary Jane of Corfe Castle nr Wareham, and elder brother Alfred of Jubilee Terrace, Herston, Dorset.

Records show his service as follows, prior to discharge at expiry of period of service in 1902:

Home 19.6.89 - 21.7.90
Bermuda 22.7.90 - 28.7.91
Home 29.7.91 - 8.8.00
South Africa 9.8.00 - 22.5.02
Home 23.5.02 - 18.6. 02

thanks - also found out from another source

l9l4 Volunteered at the start of WW1
Firstly, he was an instructor in the Guards. Later with the Middlesex Regiment where he oversaw the training of his eldest son Stephen.
Later Herbert was transferred to a service battalion of the Middlesex Regiment, and finally to the Royal Flying Corps (later the Royal Air Force) in Bath as an instructor to an O.T.C,

just the start if finding out who did what I imagine

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Herbert Paine & Elizabeth Sophia Hemstrich
« on: Saturday 03 December 11 10:30 GMT (UK)  »
Sadly Stephen was only 19 when he died on 10th July 1918

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=550029

Herbert and Elizabeth were living in The Station House,Farnham,Surrey at the time....
allan

that was the link that threw me off; my dad had always been told Cyril's brother Stephen resettled in Perth WA after the war. Surprised him no end when I found the truth.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Herbert Paine & Elizabeth Sophia Hemstrich
« on: Friday 02 December 11 11:46 GMT (UK)  »
That tree is the link I was looking for; now to try and remember all my cousin's names.

Then research Boer War history and then WWI service for Herbert and get more details of Stephen's effort on the Somme.

Cyril served in the RN from 1921 to 1936 before transferring to the RAN and serving until 1958

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Herbert Paine & Elizabeth Sophia Hemstrich
« on: Wednesday 30 November 11 12:22 GMT (UK)  »
I suspect this too; but can't find anything to confirm that yet.

Spoke with my father who reckons that his dad's brother Stephen moved to WA after the war (WWI) - but I think this might have been the family explanation to a young boy. The birthdate of Stephen seems too coincidental with Cyril's birthdate in that linked tree. I think Stephen is the one who died on the Somme.

Also found a postcard which was from his grandfather (possibly Herbert) - he thought it was from his mother's side - but the postcard mentioned service in the Grenadiers, then in the Boer and then WWI; Herbert seems to have been in service but again can't find anything over here (Aust).

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Herbert Paine & Elizabeth Sophia Hemstrich
« on: Wednesday 30 November 11 11:45 GMT (UK)  »
My grandfather was Cyril Herbert Paine - b 13 April 1903 Sevenoaks Kent; died 1977 The Entrance NSW
Grandfather - Married Ellen (Nellie) Kupsch (b 1905 d. 1988?).

got the descendents from that marriage, looking to see if Herbert G Paine is my great grandfather; and then track things back from there.

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Family History Beginners Board / Herbert Paine & Elizabeth Sophia Hemstrich
« on: Tuesday 29 November 11 09:36 GMT (UK)  »
I've been researching my own family tree and son Cyril on this family tree is my grandfather (I think). I have details of his birthday, marriage, children, etc if interested.

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