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Northumberland / Re: St Anthonys, Walkers, Newcastle Upon Tyne
« on: Wednesday 08 June 05 00:36 BST (UK)  »
Dear Michael,

You are splitting hairs on the 1851 Index books. Check the actual 1851 Census of Walker, and it has Ecclesiastical District Walker. Village of Walker Iron Works & Wincomblee, Walker Oil Mill & Low Walker.
1861 Census no mention of Longbenton except the Registrar Sub District. Village-Walker
1871 Census is the same 1861.
1891 Census.-Walker

As for the 1881 Census are you saying that Walker does not exist. Check the Actual 1881 census Records it definitely does.

The only connection of Longbenton to Walker after 1848 is the Registrar's Sub District.

All Leases were issued by Newcastle Corporation from 1723, even when Walker was in the parish of Longbenton & still issued Leases after Walker became a parish in it's right. Lonbenton had no jurisdiction over Walker affairs, except in the Church prior to 1848.

Check St. Batholomew's, Longbenton, and where a baptism or death occurred it gives an area or address & it mentions Walker, not Longbenton.  Example; Sharpers House Farm, Walker.

I think enough has been said on this matter, as it looks you will not accept what I have been trying to explain to you. So be it.

But I live in Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne. Not Longbenton.

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Northumberland / Re: St Anthonys, Walkers, Newcastle Upon Tyne
« on: Friday 03 June 05 00:56 BST (UK)  »
Dear Michael,

Sorry to say Genuki is wrong, I have copy of Deeds & other records  that state Manor or Lordship of Walker. Never a Township.

The definition of "Parish" Subdivision of Diocese, having it's own church and clergyman". So once Walker got it's own Church & Clergyman it was no longer part of Longbenton Parish. And Longbenton Parish no longer went to the River Tyne from 1848.

As for BDMs, I said pertaining to Walker. I never mentioned other parts Longbenton BDMS. Under Civil Registration  states the area is divided between North Tyneside & Newcastle Registration Districts.

Of course, if you were checking for BDM in the GRO, Walker would be listed under Tynemouth. And if you applied for certificate from Southport, you would state that. But if you wanted to get the certificate personally. Then you will go to the Civic Centre, Newcastle.

John G. 8)
Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne

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Northumberland / Re: St Anthonys, Walkers, Newcastle Upon Tyne
« on: Wednesday 01 June 05 22:28 BST (UK)  »
Just a correction St. Anthony of Padua RC, was built in 1860 in the Parish of Walker not Longbenton. As Walker became a Parish in it's own right in 1848 when Christ Church  C of E was built, the Parish Church of Walker.

Walker never belonged to Longbenton. Until 1715 it was owned by individuals. Then the Corporation of Newcastle upon Tyne bought the Lordship or Manor of Walker from the executors of William Dickenson for £12,200. Then in 1904 by an Act of Parliament, it became part (Suburb) of Newcastle upon Tyne.

On BDMs, all certificates pertaining to Walker are now held at the Civic Centre, Newcastle upon Tyne.

On St. Anthony of Padua, it has changed a lot from when I was married there.

John G. 8)
Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne

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