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John Edwin was my paternal grandfather, and his death occured just about 4 years after the death of my maternal grandfather William James Green (see post).  He was survived by his wife Sarah Ann (Sally) and five children.  He is remembered by 19 grandchildren and many great grandchildren.  He was mortally wounded while in no-mans-land during preparations for the actions of the Battle of St Quentin Canal while serving with the 1st 4th Leicesters and died a few weeks later.  The memories of two of his children tell that he was serving in Ireland in 1916, in Dublin and the South West (Dingle Bay region).  From this I deduce that he first served with the 2nd 4th or 2nd 5th Battalions and later was transferred to the 1st 4th when these units were disbanded or reduced during 1917 but I need confirmation of my summise. He had earlier seen action in the Boer War and may have been a territorial called up on the outbreak of the war. His widow did not remarry and is very fondly remembered as a dear Granny by her 19 grandchildren.   

The two postings are made in memory of the two much missed husbands, fathers and grandfathers.

Lovers Lost
Husbands sorely missed
Grandfathers never known
not forgotten

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WW1 In Memoriam / 17th October 1914, William James Green, 29, 18th (QMO) Hussars
« on: Friday 24 October 14 14:28 BST (UK)  »
My mother Gwen Green was just 6 months old when her father was killed in actions following the battle of MONS, on reconnaissance action near the village of ROMARIN. He was survived by his widow, Gertrude Fanny (nee Wolloff) and daughters Marie and Gwen. I was told that James was a reservist and called to his Regiment on 5th August 1914.  He was with the Regiment at Tidworth Barracks in 1911 (census record), so I deduce that he enlisted as a 17year old, perhaps in 1904, leaving his home village of Earl Shilton where he worked in the shoe trade.  It seems that after his 7 years service, he elected to become a reservist.  He was then  able to marry Gertrude Fanny Wolloff in December 1911. I was told she was his sweetheart  when he was just a lad, they had to wait to get married but then his married life was cut so short.  He was never forgotten and is remembered now by grandchildren and great grandchildren. 

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Descendents of William Burton
« on: Sunday 29 January 12 23:31 GMT (UK)  »
From PJWO

Following the earlier discussion of William Burton of Hinckley, my family is related as he is a 3xgreat grandfather.  His son John Burton born in Hinckley, Leics about 1831 had four children with his first wife Sarah nee Harrod, but following the death of his first wife Sarah, John Burton moved with his children to Rotherham where he remarried.  One of the children,  David Burton (born Hinckley 1851) of the first marriage, is a great grandfather.  He  married Eliza Askham in Rawmarsh near Rotherham but subsequently moved back to the Hinckley area and his son Hubert is a grandfather.

I am interested in understanding why John Burton moved from Hinckley area to Rotherham and would like to learn more about Samuel Askham, born about 1833, and his wife Mary nee Gill, the parents of Eliza Askham.

I would also love to learn more about William Burton and his family prior to the 1841 census.

PJWO

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Your earlier posts on William Burton
« on: Sunday 29 January 12 22:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Truebrit from PJWO

I am new to Rootschat, but I am finding it helpful with a number of searches.  I am very interested in a line of descent from the William Burton of Hinckley that you posted on earlier. Can we exchange information. The line of descent leads via Williams son John who moved from Hinckley to ROtherham and his grandson David, who married and started his family in Rawmarsh Rotherham but then moved back to Stony Stanton near Hinkcley. The children of David Burton lead to my own family. I do have further details and would be interested to learn more of this family.  I believe that William Burton was a petitioner in a pamphlet published 1843 and reprinted in "The Cradle and Home of the Stocking Frame" Arthur J Pickering 1940.

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Oxfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: John Wolloff in 1841
« on: Monday 21 November 11 20:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Beverley

A few years ago you posted a search for John Wolloff married to Martha Tilley 25th September/december 1840.  I trace my family tree back to this John Wolloff through my mother whose mother was nee Wolloff and have extensive research on John and all his 11 children.  Eventually the family moved from rural oxfordshire to Leicester and most became shoe trade workers.  There is still a cluster of people with the family name Wolloff in Leicester all of whom I think can be traced back to John and Martha.

I am interested in the origin of this name - there is just one other Phoebe Wolloff mentioned in the 1841 census but in the 1851 census she is given as Phebe Wooloff, so there may have been a name confusion.

If you are still interested in this family and the parents and ancestry of Martha Tilley I would be happy to exchange ideas.  Sorry it is some 5 years since you posted a query about Martha Tilley and John Wolloff.

Peter

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