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Hi Brian

So your in Canada? Nice to know the Muscovitz Empire is spread far and wide. Im the great great grandson of Morris Muscovitz.  The tree we have been working on is http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/o/p/Patricia-A-Hopps/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0013.html

I would love to have a look at your family tree. Ill send you an email address to your PM. We have gotten as far back as Alexander Muscovitz but would love to know if you have anything on him or before him.

Wow

Your a machine justin!

Yes i have the 1881 census with Morris Muscovitz as the father age 40 (guessing he was born about 1841) and Morris Muscovitz as the son born about 1866 (aged 15 in 1881 census). They are both down as British Subjects. See attached. The names mary up with Patricia Hopps website.

Your spot on re name changes of the younger morris (to morrie morris then Emmanuel Morris) - it made my uncle work hard for it but I believe he has some paperwork on this. I was more suprised that he changed his name to emmanual as theres no family hsitory of this name. Dont know if this is a jewish thing or not. Doesnt sound like it.

Id like to order FHL film number 730172 re  Szymche Mosiek Moskowicz  marriage to Blima Kaliszer. What do you think the chances are of finding a birth record for szmche or a marriage record for Aleksander to id the mother of Szymche/wife of Aleksander. How would I go about this??

Also is there a rego number for the naturalisation papers for Morris held in UK National archives ?

Thanks for the death record of Alek....my uncle did do alot of work to try and find tombstones in the Lodz cemetry when he was there a few years ago but to no avail. Im guessing the name and spelling thru him and at that stage we didnt have alex's name.

As we say in Australia Justin your a top bloke for helping out so much...thanks for your help....

Justin this link confirmed a very poorly written entry in an english census (date unsure ill check)  that was almost undecernable stating alexander as the father of morris muscovitz. Im unsure of patricia's source. Thanks for the insight into polish records - whats your link in all this??

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/o/p/Patricia-A-Hopps/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0013.html

Hello Fellow Muscovites

Im a descendent of Morris Muscovitz - Morrie Morris and Ben Morris. Refer to the link below.
This tree was done by a Patricia Hopps in the states (im in Australia) and may help fill in the gaps. My family in oz had chased this line for ages and was happy to get the name of Morris's father  - Alexander which we never had before. PS these are the anglisised names.

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/o/p/Patricia-A-Hopps/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0013.html

Your dates and names mostly match up. Im interested to see if if this Jacob Morris is also Morris Muscovitz aka Simcha Moisha. There seems to be a few different names floating around ie Abraham born 1873 is mostly likely Alf Morris, Jacob born 1886 is most likely Jack Morris, Gershion born 1882 is most likely george morris.

Pearlsing - I put the Muscovitzs arriving in England from Lodz between 1873 and 1875 (Alf Morris, b. Abt. 1874, Lodz , Nate (Nathan) Morris, b. Abt. 1875, Mile End, London).

Some of us went to Australia - my line (ben Morris was in aust by late 1890's) and some went Canada and some stayed in England. Ive searched Jewish records in lodz via the web and not found any clear reference to the Muscovitz' s and Alexanders name. This is my main focus at the moment. Any references would be helpful.

Abi it looks like were related (Golda is Morris's sister my great great grandfather) but this reference to a Jacob Morris Muscovitz  ive never heard of befor. Can you both clarfiy this and is his fathers name aleaxander born 1820ish- mothers name unknown at this stage.
PS Morris died in 1918 in England.

All the best Shauno