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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Wednesday 01 March 17 12:43 GMT (UK)  »
Good afternoon Phil

Once again thank you for the information - I shall certainly take a look at Richard & Ellen Kilshaw, on a quick look on Lancs OPC I found a burial of Ellin Kilshaw widow abode Salwick buried St Anne Woodplumpton 17 Jan 1805 age 98 years - this would put her at the correct age of Ellen 60 in 1767!
but i can find nothing on Richard at the moment

John Baines & his wife Mary Kilshaw of Over Wyresdale could be relations (through Mary) but I cannot prove anything as yet

John Baines of Over Wyresdale and Catherine Kilshaw (sister to Mary) were left £201 in our Richard Blacoe's will and he called Catherine Kilshaw his niece (which of course would put Mary as a niece too!) but I just cannot find a link or a Kilshaw/Blacoe marriage

What makes it more complicated is our Richard Blacoe's daughter Mary Blacoe married John  Baines the miller of Sandholme (son of Barnaby Baines of Claughton/Wyresdale) in the will Richard called in a debt that his son in law John Baines of Sandholme owed him of £150 - so he wasn't left anything in Richard's will

Please only do any more look ups when you have time, there really is no rush Richard has waited over 300 years for me to find him - he can wait a bit longer

Take care and thanks again
Marilyn

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 17:35 GMT (UK)  »
That is a great turn up so her father was Richard tiny step by step we are getting there

I think her father must have married one of Richard's sisters or maybe Richards wife was a Kilshaw and it is one of her brothers children?

It is so frustrating not being able to see any marriages or baptisms for this period.

I did find a death on Lancashire OPC in 1730 and also in 1734 of a Mary Kilshay daughter of Richard of Garstang so this could be him.

When you have time (no rush at all!) Is there any sign of Richard Kilshaw or any other Kilshaw's on the Papist returns?

Regarding Richard Blakoe yes I knew he was there along with his son Joseph (our blood line) in Cabus

Thank you so much for this

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This request has now been fulfilled - thank you

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 15:03 GMT (UK)  »
Yes I believe they were as on the banns (6th, 13th & 20th June) from St Helen Garstang it states that John Baines was from Wyresdale and Mary Kilshaw was from Winmarleigh  (same as Catherine)

They  are also down as being married at St Mary the Priory Lancaster on 22 Jun 1756 John Baynes Husbandman of this parish and spinster Mary Culshaw of Garstang

Both above are on Lancs OPC


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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 14:29 GMT (UK)  »
Our family name in this area is Blackow/Blacoe/Blakoe + others!

We have got as far back as Richard Blakoe of Cabus born around 1707 this is my husband's 6th Great Grandfather

In Richards will of 1776 I have received this week , he leaves the sum of £201 to his niece Catherine Kilshaw (who you have just found!) plus John Baines in the Forest of Bowland

Further problems here as his son in law (also mentioned in the will who owed him £150) is another John Baines (the miller who you have also found)

I was hoping Catherine being his niece would really help me go back another generation but I cannot find any Kilshaw & Blacoe marriages but of course the would be catholic marriages so it is  very difficult as I am sure you know

Please could I ask was Catherine Kilshaw in the same household as Thomas Baynes and family in Winmerley?

I think the John Baines & Mary in Wyresdale is the John I am looking for - I also think his wife was Mary Kilshaw so this could be another link - possibly

Thank you for your interest

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 13:53 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so so much this is wonderful and answers a few questions - very grateful

Marilyn

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Saturday 25 February 17 18:04 GMT (UK)  »
Good evening

I am hoping I can take you up on your offer regarding a look up on the Returns of The Papists 1767

I am looking for

Catherine Kilshaw (could be Culshaw or variant)
and John Baines (could be Baynes)

in the Sandholme/Barnacre/Nether Wyresdale/Forest of Wyresdale/ Garstang area and any of her & his family

Thank you so much in advance

Marilyn

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I have Richard's Burial found on Lancashire Online parish and also on Ancestry
Burial: 1 Sep 1776 St Helen, Garstang, Lancashire, England Richard Blacow - Abode: Claughton Register: Burials 1775 - 1780, Page 13, Entry 7 Source: LDS Film 1278942

His son Joseph a yeoman was living in Claughton on his wife's burial and also when he remarried and when he died so I presume that Richard was living there at the time of his death

Thank you for the tip regarding leases on Lancs Archives I shall take a look at those this weekend




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Hi again
The value of the estate is not stated anywhere on the paperwork i received nor are there any signatures from Joseph or Catherine unfortunately

Yes I agree the mount of £201 is a very odd amount and it does read that it is between them I had not really noticed that before - it is marvellous what another pair of eyes can see!

I have asked for a look up request on here in the Papist Returns for Catherine Kilshaw & John Baines, I am truly hoping this brings some luck

I thought mine was difficult but your family tree sounds a nightmare!

Good question re executors Joseph one of the executors was most definitely Catholic as he was with Richard on the Papist returns in 1767

Henry Blakoe of Snape Wood in Cabus  is showing as having an administration bond in 1768 have you any idea what this is? I thought it was a will but not sure?

I am sure he must have something to do with Richard


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