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Staffordshire / Re: Wolstanton and Burslem Union Workhouse
« on: Wednesday 08 February 12 10:04 GMT (UK)  »
Hi NEL

Sorry for the delay but somehow I have not been notified of all the responses to my initial post.

Thanks very much for that piece of information. I may come back to you later if that's ok.

Hi scottish quine

My research at the moment is focusing on the workhouse census records. I've checked 1891 and 1901 and your gt grandfather is not there as you probably already know.

The next phase will be to fill in as many inter-censal gaps as I can, but I don't doubt the difficulty of this. I am aware that there is limited archival material available so I will see what comes out of my research. I should later be able to confirm if Henry Yates died in the workhouse because they began to record births and deaths around 1840 onwards.

I've been contacted by Leslie (your distant cousin?) this morning who I intend to speak with later today. I'll see what comes out of that conversation and no doubt she will get in touch with you.

best regards to all

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Staffordshire / Re: Wolstanton and Burslem Union Workhouse
« on: Monday 28 November 11 10:57 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for getting back to me, although I was only notified of one of these replies.

Firstly, I am aware of and have seen the workhouses and pasttrack web sites which were both useful when I was researching the development phases of the buildings.

'Mischat' I don't know who your ancestors are but I have re-transcribed all of the census records for the workhouse from 1841 through to 1901 so far. Anything you wish to share with me would be appreciated and I'll do likewise.

I'm dividing the 'inmates/paupers' into a series of groups: Individuals aged 16+ on their own; Single parent families; Single Child up to 15 on their own; Children up to 15 from the same family (siblings) on their own; Both parents with at least one dependent child; etc.

I'm then researching forwards and backwards within each of these groups to trace how/why these people arrived at the workhouse and what happened to them afterwards.

In doing so I've already come across some research that others have done on their family trees which is incorrect! In addition quite a lot of those from the workhouse left the area and set up home in other parts of the UK (mainly Yorkshire and Lancashire) and others left for a new life in the US. So this is proving to be an interesting project. Thanks for your interest and any help you can offer.

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Staffordshire / Wolstanton and Burslem Union Workhouse
« on: Thursday 03 November 11 21:29 GMT (UK)  »
It's been suggested by another member here that I send a message to the Staffordshire Board regarding a research project I have just started.

The project is Wolstanton and Burslem Union Workhouse, and is really the second phase. The first phase focused on the buildings and development phases from the initial building in 1839, subsequent extensions and additions, through to it becoming Turnhurst Road Institution between 1930 and 1948, and its final life as Westcliffe Hospital in 2007. The original workhouse was in fact demolished to make way for the Claybourne Residential home in the 1990's.

The current part of the project is focusing on the people who passed through the workhouse, i.e. paupers/inmates, vagrants/tramps, and staff. I am using names of those recorded as having 'passed through' to look backwards and forwards in their lives to tell a factually-based account of social and economic conditions, how they came to be at the workhouse and how they fared during their stay and afterwards.

The purpose of this message, prompted as a I say by another member, is to firstly raise awareness and secondly to ask anyone who has any existing research or information to get in touch with me. I have no ancestors personally who were at the workhouse but having completed my earlier phase, now see this as a labour of love. I want to do this, and especially the people involved, justice so would welcome anyone's input and advice. I don't want to 're-invent the wheel' so if other's want to share their research with me (and me with them) I'll be very grateful and pleased to do so.

Apologies for this lengthy introduction to your Board and thanks for reading this.

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One Name Studies: T to Z / Re: Tregotha
« on: Thursday 03 November 11 18:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I'm new here but I'm researching family connections (though not mine) with Wolstanton and Burslem Union Workhouse. I've carried out some earlier research on the workhouse buildings etc, and have now turned to the people who passed through, i.e. paupers/inmates, vagrants/tramps, and staff. Tregotha was one such record (pauper) I came across and my basic notes on this are as follows:

One such surname is that of Tregotha, an old Cornish name for ‘cloth’. Elizabeth Tregotha aged 13 (born 1838) appeared to be alone in the workhouse with her sister Emma aged 12 (born 1839). Further research suggests that their parents were Charles and Elizabeth Tregotha (both born in 1805) and their siblings were Eliza (born 1828), Mary (born 1830), and John (born 1832). Both Charles and Elizabeth were born in Staffordshire but Charles’ mother Elizabeth (born 1771) was born outside Staffordshire, quite possibly in Cornwall.
The elder of the two sisters, Elizabeth, went on to marry Luke Tunstall in 1862 at Christ Church, Cobridge. Luke later died and she married again this time to Joseph Patrick. Elizabeth was still alive in 1911 when recorded living with or visiting a daughter.
Despite the unusual surname there is little evidence of the family in the North Staffordshire area although a Charles Tregotha (possibly a brother of the two sisters) married Ann Kelsall in 1865 at Christ Church, Cobridge. There is also birth records for Elizabeth Tregotha (born 1862) and Charles Tregotha (born 1865) and although they cannot be either Elizabeth’s or Emma’s children they are probably a niece and nephew.

My aim is to make forward and backward connections with some of those who 'passed' through the workhouse to suggest how or why they arrived there and how they fared afterwards. Of course I've come to recognise that dates are seldom to be relied upon so these dates should be considered approximations.

I hope this is helpful and if I come across any more information I'll pass it on. If anyone has information that I may find useful with regard to the workhouse and its residents and staff, I would be very pleased to see it.

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