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Family History Beginners Board / Re: My Brick Wall. Please Help
« on: Friday 27 May 05 23:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Well, quite a story!!!!

I too am searching Battens and have come across a few. But doing a search on ancestry I came across a joseph ? looked on the image and it looks like Joseph Batten who is a blacksmith, now did you know that in that day, the blacksmith was also the carpenter/coffinmaker? He was also lodging with a cabinet maker (carpenter)


I have saved the image, so if you want to see it then contact me at * and I will gladly email it to you.

regards

Dawn




Hi,
I'd really  like some suggestions for tracing this family please. I'm at a total loss with them,and perhaps someone here could suggest something  to find them which I may be totally overlooking, and have not thought of.

I can not find my Great grandmother  Florence (or her parents) in the 1881 census, or 1891. The only census I have with Florence is in 1901 when she is married with children. I have no siblings for her, and no clue about her parents family either :


Florence Rosina Batten born 17 June 1871, address 1 Goodhind st, Bristol.
mother Susannah Pattison
father Joseph batten, occupation carpenter
(info from Florence's birth cert)

in 1881 Florence should be 10 years old, I have searched for with her birth name "Batten" ( also all other  mistranscribed names that I can think of , batter, Battle , Bitten,Button etc etc,the list goes on and on. I've basically gone through the  whole alphabet ). I have searched for her using her mother's maiden name - Florence Pattison ( Patterson etc etc) . I have also searched for her using just her Christian name ( just in case her mother has re-married and Florence is going under the name of Florence Smith or whatever) . Also have searched using a wide birth range just in case the census is mistranscribed. I have also tried searching for her by her middle name , just in case she is going by her middle name Rosina.
 

1891 ,  no sign of her either . Later in 1891 ( after the census date - Oct/Dec quarter ,BedweltyMonmouthshire ) she marries an Alfred Quarman . I have searched for her using the above methods, plus the Quarman name just in case she is living with him before they are married ( can not find her soon to be husband Alfred in 1891 either, I have him in all the other census though)



1871 - I have what may be her parents ( below *), but can't  really prove it is them, even if it is them it still is not much use to me (as they are the only people in the house, no kids, or other relatives) ,as I can not trace this couple any further with the info I have. I have searched  through pages of entries for a Susannah pattison and Joseph Batten marriage ( using 1837 site) around 1871 ( when Florence was born) . I think I searched five or 6 years after 1871, and around 8or 9 years before 1971

*info :5 Morton Street
St James And St Paul
Bristol Gloucestershire

Joseph Batten Head 33  b Chew Magna Somerset . occupation Carpenter
Susan Jane Batten Wife 27 b Plymouth Devon



Births  for the parents  Joseph and SusannahI haven't searched because there are too many Joseph Batten's etc, and I have no way in knowing which  Joseph Batten is my Joseph. same goes for Susannah.


1901 - I have Florence , her husband Alfred and kids in the census, living in Glamorgan.


sorry for this long post, this is all the info I have on them. I've been trying to find Florence  ( and her parents) as a child in 1881 for almost a year now, and also 1891, and having no luck what so ever. I'm pulling my hair out over this family!  :'(

My thoughts are these, she may be totally mistranscribed in 1881, but surely she can't be mistranscribed in 1891 too with a simple name such as Batten? Also, why would they not fill in two censuses, one maybe ,but two?? The only thing that I can think of, her mother has re-married and she is known as Florence "smith" etc.  Or perhaps I have a family of travellers ( gypsies)? . Or maybe they went to  Ireland could be another long shot.

Am I overlooking anything which is  the reason why I can't find them? I would dearly love to find them in the 1881 census to find out more about her parents, or any other siblings.

Thanks for any suggestions  :)
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