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Lancashire / Re: William Dawbarn 1820-1907, Liverpool
« on: Saturday 22 October 11 23:30 BST (UK)  »
I have found John in the 1841 census at 101 Bold St Liverpool. Bold St was a very prestigious address in those days it was known as "the Regents Street of the North."
I also have a copy of his will and the codicil written whilst in Pennsylvania in 1847 this gives his residence at that time as Oxton Cheshire. Today Oxton is a suburb of Birkenhead on the other side of the Mersey from Liverpool but in those days it would have been a very pleasant village on a hill overlooking the river. Certainly a suitable place for a rich merchant to retire .John's will was valued at in excess of £6000.
It seems the family must have disposed of the property pretty quickly after John's death, I looked up those family members which according to the will were still living with him in the 1851 census:
Cordelia had move in with her uncle Ellison in Walton Liverpool
Francis Hurry and Harriet had bought property in Everton Liverpool
Hope this is of some help.
Incidentally the guy from America who contacted you re his wife Heather will be related to me .One of William's sons moved to Warrington in Cheshire and there is quite a colony of Dawbarns in that area,I've met a couple of them. Some became Mormons and that is why they moved to the States.

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Lancashire / Re: William Dawbarn 1820-1907, Liverpool
« on: Saturday 22 October 11 19:39 BST (UK)  »
Just thought I would share this with you and do hope you are interested.
 Your reply prompted me to dig out my old notes on this subject and remind myself where I was up to when I last gave it up.
As I explained the earliest record of William my GGGF was as a 20 yr old apprentice joiner living with a family in Stanhope St  on the night of the 1851 census. However what I had forgotten was that  we had also found another William Dawbarn at another house on that night.So in total we now have three!
This entry shows a William Dawburn (misspelling presumably) visiting a family called Fairclough a few miles away from Stanhope St. This William is given as 18 years old also born in Liverpool and employed as a tailor.
Obviously the nearest relation these two can be is first cousins which, if that is the case, means that there were, or at least had been at some time, two Dawbarn brothers who fathered them. Also it rules out the illegitimacy theory with John, so he is off the hook!
Another interesting point is that I recall John first had premises in Liverpool at Byrom St. Records show that Alice Ann Halsworth, Williams "wife" moved from Mayfield Staffs with her parents to 12 Byrom St when she was about 4 yrs old. Her father David was employed as a tailor by Ackroyd and Co and they lived on the premises. They where there from 1841-1853
I know John prospered and opened premises in Bold St which would be considerably more upmarket than Byrom St but do you know if he actually left Byrom St? Also do you know the year?

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Lancashire / Re: William Dawbarn 1820-1907, Liverpool
« on: Friday 21 October 11 00:51 BST (UK)  »
I am a direct decendant of William Dawbarn and spent some time researching family history a few years ago. Like you, I thought it strange that two seperate William Dawbarn families existed in Liverpool during the 19th century. Particulary so, given that they were both engaged in the timber trade but at opposite ends of the social scale.My ancestor, he was my GG grandfather actually, was by trade a joiner whilst yours amongst other interests was I believe a timber merchant.
The problem I have is that William appears to have aged 10 years between the 1851Census record where he appears as a 20 year old apprentice living in what looks like a lodging house in Stanhope St and the subsequent records where he lives in various poor locations as a married man with Anne Halsworth. Like you I can find no record of a marriage although all their children appear to have been baptised Anglican. I wonder if he is an illigitimate child of John, your ancestor's uncle.

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