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Email me at kdviner@msn.com. I can send you info on Thomas and the approximate location of River Estate.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Mary Ann Lupton b about 1845 Yeadon
« on: Sunday 11 November 12 04:55 GMT (UK)  »
There are too many variables in this family history to successfully determine what the connection is between the Lupton/Burnell line and the Ivinsons is. Only if one starts removing variables is there any headway. Then, the achieved headway usually ends with no firm connection.  About time to give up on this quest!

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Mary Ann Lupton b about 1845 Yeadon
« on: Wednesday 07 November 12 14:00 GMT (UK)  »
Well, some additional information has come to light with the acquisition ogf Jane Ivinson's death certificate. Says her father was John Wood and that he was born in Yorkshire, possibly Yeadon. Also says Jane was born in Halifax,Yorkshire (the third one listed in family sources!). Also lists Jane's mother as Elizabeth, but there is an actual had written question mark behaind her name and no birth place listed. A bit more to go on at least....the search for the Lupton, Wood, Burnell, Ivinson connection continues.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Mary Ann Lupton b about 1845 Yeadon
« on: Wednesday 31 October 12 02:35 GMT (UK)  »
Saw the film of the original church record today of the marriage of Edward Ivinson and Jane Wood. Sadly there is no additional identifying information there either. No parents names...nothing. Since I can find nothing concrete on Jane's mother or father, and the trail from her grandmother to the Burnells is a dead end, I am....to use a Navy term....dead in the water. I can say, with an amount of UNcertainty, that Jane Wood lived with her grandmother in Halifax Yorkshire in 1851. That, at least, fits the family history story.
Thanks for your suggestions and help.
Kim

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Mary Ann Lupton b about 1845 Yeadon
« on: Tuesday 09 October 12 04:47 BST (UK)  »
SO the New Jersey State record did not tell me much about Edward and Jane. BUT...it did list the minister who married them and I tracked down the church he was affiliated with. It appears the LDS may have a copy of the church's marriage records. I will check to see and order it if they do. Perhaps THAT may give the names of their parents.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Mary Ann Lupton b about 1845 Yeadon
« on: Sunday 23 September 12 16:05 BST (UK)  »
I have just ordered what I believe is a marriage certificate for Edward and Jane from the state of New Jersey. If it has what it should, we then might know the first name of her mother and father and hopefully will lead to a solution to this mystery!

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Mary Ann Lupton b about 1845 Yeadon
« on: Friday 21 September 12 20:31 BST (UK)  »
Burnell and Lupton named families are in Guiseley/Rawdon and Horsforth  areas in 1841.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Guiseley/index.html
(Sorry for records not being complete, but have a delve in PR for the above down at the bottom of the page.)
 Brian
Yes, the reason that I chose that Mary Ann Lupton is that she gave the middle name "Burnell" to one of her children. She was married to Benjamin Burnell.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Mary Ann Lupton b about 1845 Yeadon
« on: Friday 21 September 12 17:28 BST (UK)  »
I just looked at the 1851 census, and it appears that it might be the jackpot. Age wouldn't be quite right at it comes out to 10 year 5 months old (vice 12 years). But, we are all aware that ages on census form can be questionable.  And, given that Halifax is not far from Yeadon, it is not out of the question that a relative (Burnell family?) would have been in touch with Young Jane. Unless something more promising shows up, you guys may have just solved the riddle!

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Mary Ann Lupton b about 1845 Yeadon
« on: Friday 21 September 12 17:13 BST (UK)  »
Looking at Bolton as a possible birthplace.

There is a Jane born Bolton living with grandmother Margaret Wood in Halifax Yorks.  She's 12 and the grandmother is 70. 

Don't suppose you have access to her marriage record which would name the father - or is that where fathers name John came from?
Is that from the 1851 census? If so that could be the most solid lead to date!

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