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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« on: Tuesday 02 June 15 22:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi to all

Bunny - Good to hear from you again.  I will get copies of photos of Tom, and get them to you.  Wasn't it lucky Dad's stepmother kept that album after she married my grandfather!!!

Hernebay - I have emailed you, so hope the message gets through - if so you can reply to me by email with your details, but can also keep posting on this site with any information you have so others that are interested can keep up with the story.

KaeDee - Sorry I couldn't help you, but the Quelches made a habit of having the same names in different branches of the family - there were 2 Myrtle Eva Quelch - Harriet's daughter that we have been researching, and one of Harriet's brothers also had a Myrtle Eva Quelch.  Very tricky for trying to sort out who you are actually looking at/for.

Cheers
Maggie

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« on: Sunday 31 May 15 23:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi KaeDee

Thomas married Eva Finey, and had 4 children - the eldest was Mona, then Madeleine, then Hilda, then a son William born later.  Infobunny on this site is related to Thomas through Mona.  I have Thomas and Eva's wedding photo, also a photo of Thomas, Eva, and the three girsl taken (we think) when Thomas returned from WWI - he is in his uniform.

Cheers
Maggie 

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« on: Sunday 31 May 15 23:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi

So pleased to read your reply - I think you have some (a lot!) of information about Myrtle that I would love to know, and I can help you with the family history that you may not know.
Myrtle used to visit Harriet (her mother) reasonably often from what my father told me, but William John Lynch was never allowed inside the house - obviously my grandfather didn't like him and I know William was an alcoholic, but Myrtle seemed to be quite welcome. Dad could also remember William Lynch. Your comments about him explain this!!!  I knew Myrtle had left William Lynch, but didn't know when, but she was living with Harold Filmer when William Lynch died.  William Lynch died on 17 March  1958 and Myrtle and Harold married on 21 May 1958 in the Registrars Office in Auckland.  They were both living at 10 Arthur St, Ponsonby at the time of their marriage.  William Lynch is buried in the Soldiers Area at Waikumete Cemetery.
On Myrtle and William's marriage certificate her parents are shown as Arthur Joseph McKeon (Bricklayers labourer) and Cecilia Quelch formerly McKeon, maiden name Cross.  This is the person we have not been able to find any trace of, maybe you can help?
Dad and Mum also visited Myrtle when he returned from WWII when the Lynch family were living in Arch Hill in Auckland but lost touch with her after that, but told me about Myrtle when I was 16 and pregnant - his comment was "that I wasn't the first one in the family for it to happen to".
It is interesting about William Jnr, as your mother made a comment that he had got mixed up in some strange religion and they had heard nothing more of him.
I would love to see pictures of your grandmother, and I will send ones that I have - I don't know if Myrtle had any of Harriet, but you will at least see what she looked at - Dad always thought they looked very alike.  I am so glad to hear a little of what Myrtle was like - that has been one of my dreams since I first knew about her - to be able to talk to someone who knew her, which was why I contacted your mother. 
Harriet (your ggrandmother!) is buried at Hillsborough Cemetery in Auckland, but we moved the plaque from her grave to Waikumete and placed it on the Jenner family grave as the area she was buried at Hillsborough had started to slip.  This whole area has now been repaired, so the grave is still intact and in good order.
Under most of our user names is a little green scroll.  I think it becomes active after three postings and then you are able to send private messages to board members and sensitive items like email addresses, so after your next post we can email with our address etc to send photos.
Look forward to your next reply.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« on: Saturday 30 May 15 23:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi HerneBay

So pleased to see your message appear on the website.   Myrtle May McKeon/Lynch/Filmer was my father"s 1/2 sister, born Myrtle Eva Quelch on 31 December 1899 according to her birth certificate.  Her mother, Harriet Ellen Quelch, married my grandfather Frederick Harry Jenner, and Myrtle used to visit them and my father in Devon St Auckland where they lived.  According to the information I have from the Registrar-General of BDM in NZ Myrtle was brought up as Myrtle May McKeon by Arthur Joseph McKeon and Cecelia McKeon (nee Quelch).  We have not been able to find any information on Cecelia McKeon - maybe you can help?  We have wondered if this was a name used by Harriet in helping to bring up Myrtle, as she was know by her family as Sis/Sissy.   
After I got a copy of Myrtle's death notice I was able to contact your mother Alma Joan, (Known as Joan), but she wouldn't see me until she had spoken to her daughter in Australia, and I never heard back from her.  I guess you are that daughter? 
Eileen Katherine (Palmer) is buried at Purewa Cemetery in Auckland, Elizabeth Marie (Betty Whyte) is buried at Waikumete Cemetery in Auckland, and I have been unable to find any information on William John.
I have been to Myrtle's grave at Tuakau cemetery, and was able to take my father to see it before he died - he always remembered Myrtle visiting Harriet their mother, before his mother died in 1927.  He also visited her when she was married to William Lynch, after he returned from WWII.  William & Myrtle were married at St Patricks Catherdral in Auckland.
Would love any information you have on Myrtle, as Dad could remember how much she looked like their mother.
Hope this information is of help - have a number of family photos, including Harriet at about 13? yrs old, and her wedding photo to my grandfather; also of some of her brothers and her parents.

Hope to hear more from you soon.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« on: Wednesday 16 November 11 19:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Lu

Thanks for your reply - any thoughts help.  Problem is Harriet's full name was Harriet Ellen Quelch, although it is possible that it was a name used purely for upbringing of Myrtle.

No, I haven't had time yet to look at marriages for McKeon/Egan - my next job!!! Always so many things to do / think of.  It seems that several of the family members changed their names - one of Myrtle's daughters is shown on her marriage certificate as Betty May Lynch (father William John Lynch that was Myrtle's first husband), married to Graham Rattray Whyte, yet the electoral rolls show Graham Rattray Whyte and Elizabeth Marie Whyte!!!!!  It would be much easier if people stuck to their original names!!!

Maggie   

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« on: Wednesday 16 November 11 01:51 GMT (UK)  »
I thought I had better add my piece to all the information that has been given on Myrtle Eva Quelch / Myrtle May McKeon.  As Myrtle was my father's half-sister, I can maybe correct a couple of items.  Myrtle did not meet Harriet for the first time around 1927 - she had always visited Harriet, her husband Frederick and my father - my father could remember her coming to visit at their house from when he was a small child, and often commented on how much Myrtle looked like Harriet.  Harriet died when he was 8 years old, so obviously Myrtle did know that Harriet was her birth mother.
Her marriage registration to Harold Filmer in 1958 shows Myrtle's father as Arthur Joseph McKeon and her mother as Cecilia McKeon, with maiden surname of mother as Quelch.  Arthur McKeon's death notice from the NZ Herald shows that he died at 8 Patterson Street at the residence of his sister, Mrs Egan.  His Death Certificate shows he died at 8 Patterson Street from 119 Franklin Road (where several McKeons were living at the time).  His Death Certificate shows relationship status at time of deat as Not Recorded, place of marriage, name of spouse/partner as NR.  It is possible that Arthur McKeon was her birth father, but my father could also remember visiting a motor building (panelbeater) shop in/around Pitt Street Auckland with his mother (Harriet) where they were always welcomed as if they were part of the family, and he had always felt that possibly one of the sons there was Myrtle's father.  He thought the family's name there was McGhee or similar, and I believe there was a motor building shop in that area at that time.  Myrtle and Harold Filmer married in May 1958, after Myrtle's first husband William John Lynch had died, although Myrtle had left him some years before.  The marriage certificate shows both Myrtle and Harold living in Arthur Street Ponsonby at the time of their marriage.
Although we can't find anything on Cecilia/Cecelia Quelch, she must have been related in some way, as there were not that many Quelches in Auckland, and all I believe were related at that time.  It may have been a family (nick)name, as Harriet was known to all her family, including in handed-down family stories) as Sissy.  None of my father's cousins that we kept in touch with knew about Myrtle, and didn't know of Cecilia either, so she is probably a dead end.  If anyone can find anything it would be great to know, and thanks for all the research you have all done.

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Quelch Family - Weedon (Bec)???
« on: Tuesday 11 October 11 05:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi Bunny

It is so good to hear from someone who obviously has heard some family stories, as Dad was only 8 when Harriet died, so didn't hear a lot about the family as he grew older, although he did stay in contact with some of them.
Harry Archibald (one of Harriet's brothers) married Martha Elizabeth on 11 August 1905, and had a daughter born in 1906 (I think) who was also called Myrtle Eva, so I am not sure which one you have picked up on.  Harriet's daughter was born on 30 December 1899, and Dad could remember her visiting the house before his mother died.  He never knew who the father was, but could remember visiting a car-body shop (the old equivalent of a panelbeater, I think), around Pitt St in Auckland, and always being welcomed as if he was one of the family.  He always felt that maybe one of the sons was Myrtle's father. He always remembered how much Myrtle looked like Harriet.  I have a very old photo album which was given to Harriet by Tom, who was apparently her favourite brother, which has some photos of family members, and I also have Harriet's wedding photo.  Myrtle was brought up by Arthur Joseph McKeon aqnd Cecelia McKeon (nee Quelch), obviously a family member but none of the family that I know seem to know who she was).  Do you have any information on Cecelia? 
I can give you copies of the certs I have, and would be interested to see the information you have.   
It would be great if we could meet sometime, and you could see photos etc, and I would love to meet a relative, as we do not have a lot of them in my family.
Cheers
Margaret

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Quelch Family - Weedon (Bec)???
« on: Monday 10 October 11 00:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi there - so pleased to know that we have some relations, especially in NZ.  I live in Auckland, and have 2 older brothers - one in Auckland and 1 in Huntly.
Harriet also had a daughter before she married my grandfather - born Myrtle Eva Quelch - I have the birth, marriage and death certificates for her, and she is buried in Tuakau cemetery under the name Myrtle Eva Filmer (she married twice).
Harriet died when my father was 8, and he went to live with William and his wife Rose in Devonport, Auckland, for a year until his father remarried.  William and Rose had a number of children also, and most, if not all, of William and Ellen's children are buried in Auckland.  I can give you places, dates etc at a later date, as I am at work at present.

The stories about William are Ellen are correct.  William had a shop in/around Pitt St in Auckland, and sold birds.  He was an alcoholic, and when he ran out of money he would go home and take some of the furniture and sell it.  He died in hospital after he came home one night and Ellen refused to let him inside, so he slept on the front porch and caught pneumonia. 

We have some photos of both William & Ellen, one of William with a bird on his shoulder outside the shop.

Cheers
Margaret 

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Quelch Family - Weedon (Bec)???
« on: Sunday 09 October 11 05:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi to everyone discussing Quelch, Weedon family.  I have just caught up with the chat, however can add the following.
William Quelch (b. 1845) and his wife Ellen (nee Archer) emigrated to New Zealand, lived in Auckland, and had the following children : William James (1873-1934), Thomas Henry (1875-1876), Thomas (1876-) Harry Percy (1878-1879), Harriet Ellen My grandmother (199--1927), Harry Archibald (1882-1950), and Sydney Herbert (1885-1971).  Harriet Ellen married my grandfather, Frederick Harry Jenner, who was born in Cranbrook, Kent.  They had one son, my father, Ronald Frederick Jenner, born 12 July 1918 in Auckland, and died 6 May 2002.

Both William and Ellen are buried in Waikumete Cemetery in Auckland.  There are still Quelch family members living in Auckland.

Hope this is helpful to anyone interested.

Cheers
Margaret

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