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Devon / Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« on: Thursday 28 March 13 23:15 GMT (UK)  »
Noel.good to get your info. I do have Richard son of Phillippe born 9/12/ 1594 on my tree, but there are also parish records of a Rycharde son of Phillippe who is buried in Brixham on 18/1/1602, and a Richard buried 28/5/1617. What was the evidence that Richard agent for John Slaney was the son of Phillippe?
On a recent stopover in Toronto I sent a request for information plus SAE. to Bonavista, but have heard nothing. It would be good to know if Nowell and Newell were interchangeable, did the Newells come from Dartmouth & the Nowells from Brixham, whether any Nowells settled there, whether any died there, I have no date for the death of Nicholas b. 1630. or his sons. Too many questions with no answers.
In Nov. you mention a post about Davies & Nowells in Tenby, where was that?

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Devon / Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« on: Saturday 24 November 12 12:29 GMT (UK)  »
My jigsaw puzzle starts with Philip born in Brixham at the end of the 16th century, there are a few earlier Nowells but any attempt to make a tree would be guess work. The Nowells stay in Brixham other than their seafaring until 1829 when
Henry b.1804 moves his family to Bridgewater.
William b.1806 has his family in Teignmouth & Brompton Kent 1834-47.
John William b.1809 has family in Brixham Ireland & Ramsgate 1831-51
Nicholas b.1810 has a daughter in Tenby in 1840
John 1818 has his family in Tenby 1844-47
Nicholas b.1815 has family in Ramsgate 1840
Stephen b. 1829 has family in Hull in 1850
In the 1870s some families went to London, but there was a lot of movement between Hull, Ramsgate Tenby & Brixham but with Brixham featuring less & less.
One Nowell Samuel b.1869 had his son Roger in Altoona USA, Roger joined the RFC in WWI and died falling from or being shot from a plane over France

I dont know about overview but I like to link these Nowells as far as possible! I think there are over 700.

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Devon / Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« on: Friday 23 November 12 19:52 GMT (UK)  »
 Jill & Noel   
I'm sure you must be right and he must be Joseph born 1794 son of Joseph & Mary, do we know if he had any family?   also in your 6.30 post on 19th Nov, presumably Philip's children were all born in Brixham as they were in the Brixham parish records. I didn't find the Joseph 1759 marriage info, was this England or Newfoundland, was there a bride?
My Tenby branch of the family is later than 18th century no William or Isaac, nor Jill can I find a Nathaniel. Did you find a date for John William, I have Dublin 1838 thats all .

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Devon / Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« on: Monday 19 November 12 21:00 GMT (UK)  »
 Hello Noel
Many thanks again, I have been puzzling over these Josephs. Could it have been Joseph b. 1734 son of Oades who was the wife of Hannah, do they marry in 1759   & father of the 3 children, then I have a Joseph b.1794 the son of Joseph & Mary, could he have been the John/Joseph who died 1835 aged 38?? If so I have 6 Josephs on my tree & 5 burial dates ie. one too many. Interesting how Joseph & Hannah's children start as Nowell but are Newell when they are buried. Are the Newfoundland Newells definitely the same family and do they then change to Noel? Any clue to what happened to Thomas born 1763?
I think John b. 1630 is my 8 x grandfather, his children are fairly well spaced so you could imagine a trans Atlantic voyage between each.
I have a John b.1659 and one b.1681 both have no English history so could be Captain John Noll,but it would be a long shot
Re the children of Philip I have his spouse as Martha and Nicholas's birth as 1630/31 ( change of calendar?) and Philip b.1676 as son of Philip b. 1633. Interested to hear of any more discoveries

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Devon / Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« on: Sunday 18 November 12 22:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Noel.
Very interested in your information about Newfoundland.
I knew the family went over there but I didn't realize they were there in the 17th century, quite impressive. Where did you find this info ?
I have Nicholas and John very near the top of the family tree, a little earlier than them there is a Thomasine who marries in 1615, but I can't place a Joseph other than Oades son and i had him as dying in Brixham in 1778, but as it is very hard to be sure which of the many people with the same names does the dying, this could well be wrong.
Who was Hannah his wife, was she from Brixham i wonder. What was the source for the Joseph who married in 1759?
One branch of the family a George Nowell was in New Brunswick in 1847-1850 with 3 children born there.
You ask if any Nowells remain. In the 19th century the family seemed to spread to Hull, Tenby and Ramsgate and even London- in the 1911 census there were Nowells from the family in each town. I don't think there are any left in Brixham, and it may be that my uncle who died last year in Hull was the last of the name and with a fishing background from there, not sure about Ramsgate or Tenby & London
Interested to hear about your sources and connection to the Nowells and thank you for the input

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Devon / Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« on: Saturday 22 October 11 20:29 BST (UK)  »
jill2011 Nicholas's Bapt. date was 9/8/1799


does anyone have any information about any of the William Nowells born 1800 -1808 and later
which one was the father( married to Rhoda ) of Sarah bapt.2/5/1847
which William( a labourer) was the father of Elizabeth( married in1842 to Thomas Hodge)
any help appreciated

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Devon / Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« on: Tuesday 11 October 11 23:22 BST (UK)  »
Jill2011   I have the same line back for John William as far as Nicholas & Ann, I then have Nicholas' father as John bapt. 26/1/1630 married  Sibley. John as son of Phillip married to Martha Barrett 14/9/1617.
 John has a brother Phillip bapt. 7/7/1633 who had a son Nicholas bapt.7/8/1677.

You are quite right there is a problem with William 1779 & Joanna. I 'm sure William is right but probably he was not married to Joanna, I think she came from Totnes,and may not be relevant.

The link I have for William & Catherine m1802 and Nicholas 1796 & Mary m1814 is ---
Nicholas' father Thomas bapt.2/9/1766 was son of Nicholas bapt. 7/12/1725 who was the brother of John bapt. 3/4/1723 who was the father of William bapt.25/12/1757.   I will look for a date of baptism for Nicholas 1796 next time I go to ExeterRrecord Office

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Devon / Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« on: Monday 10 October 11 20:11 BST (UK)  »
Jill2011
I have John William's father as William born 25 Dec. 1757 son of John born 3 April 1723 & Jane nee Langmead.

There is a William born 20 May 1779 son of John born 1754 & Mary nee Decent. he married a Joanna Loram

Hope this is of use

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Devon / Re: NOWELL fishing family of Brixham, Hull, Ramsgate & Tenby.
« on: Friday 07 October 11 22:00 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the information about John William   & also for the post about Charlotte & William Lambert.
I have Willliam & Catherine's son as William born or rather baptised on 25th Oct.1806 and I was rather hoping I'd find a John William in the Exeter microfiches. must look harder next visit.  I think William & Catherine had a total of 7 children.
Nicholas 1815 married Selina but she died aged 44, he then married Elizabeth Harford a widow.
Nicholas's parents were Nicholas b. 1796    & Mary Bird. Mary Dust married yet another Nicholas in 1814  they seem to have had only one son Matthew who died aged  1yr' in 1832 perhaps they should have been less adventurous and called him Nicholas!
The links between Nicholas 1815 & William 1757----- Nicholas' greatgrandfather Nicholas 1725 was brother to William's father John 1723.
The tree goes back from here to Phillip married in 1617 and rather more shakily to Phillippe & Rycorde married in 1589
I think these facts are fairly accurate.
At present I am trying to find out which William - of 4 born within 8 years, remarried as a widower, Mary Anne Trant in 1872 aged 63 and who his first wife was.

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