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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Monday 03 August 20 08:05 BST (UK) »
Thank you Clemens for filling in some of my gaps.
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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Saturday 01 August 20 09:35 BST (UK) »
Sorry Clemens, I have nothing more regarding Gosport. Regarding Scotland, 1841 Census has James billeted with members of regiment - Civil Parish Edinburgh, Canongate, Midlothian. Before that they were in Glasgow. No mention of wife but she was probably waiting for birth of baby in Dublin. We know that James was in Dublin by 22nd November 1841 in time for birth. Then by 20 Jan 1844 they had departed Woolwich on convict ship 'Equestrian' bound for Tasmania and N.S.W. Australia. Serg. James took part in First Maori War - 1845-1846 - Bay of Islands, New Zealand against Hone Heke and his ally Ally Kuwati.
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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Friday 31 July 20 01:00 BST (UK) »
My abbreviated records - I have:
1805 Born James Noakes (Serg.) Sussex England.
1822 Enlisted 58th Reg. Maidstone Kent England (did not go to India)
1834 Fermoy Barracks Ireland - married Mary Ann Thornhill.
1836 Son John was born Gosport Hampshire England (Military Barracks associated with Navy)
1840 Transported to Glasgow Scotland on HMS Sapphire and HMS Athol
1841 Posted to Dublin Ireland - daughter was born.
1844 20 Jan. Departed Woolwich England as guard (with family) on board Convict ship 'Equestrian' bound for Tasmania and N.SW. Australia.
1844 90 days on Norfolk Island
1845 Maori Wars Bay of Islands New Zealand
1846 Discharged returned to Australia - Chelsea Pensioner. 1852 Died.
AFTER 1859 58TH REGIMENT RETURNED TO FARNBOROUGH ENGLAND AND THEN TO BELFAST IRELAND. THEY THEN RETURNED TO INDIA.
Someone asked what did James do? It has been suggested by relative married into Military family that at such a young age (17 years) he may have been assigned as servant to high ranking officer (looking after his clothes, horses etc.). On 17th Dec 1836, acting corporal James Noakes applied to join the police force - dhbe/DH/B/136/60 East Sussex records. This application was accompanied by endorsed testimonials (25 April 1836) by Willoughby Cotton Major General commanding Western District so there may be some truth in it. (Unfortunately he wasn't tall enough - 6ft). Also his discharge papers were signed by G. Kirby Horseguards 1847. Of course as a Sergeant he would have trained recruits.
1805 Born James Noakes (Serg.) Sussex England.
1822 Enlisted 58th Reg. Maidstone Kent England (did not go to India)
1834 Fermoy Barracks Ireland - married Mary Ann Thornhill.
1836 Son John was born Gosport Hampshire England (Military Barracks associated with Navy)
1840 Transported to Glasgow Scotland on HMS Sapphire and HMS Athol
1841 Posted to Dublin Ireland - daughter was born.
1844 20 Jan. Departed Woolwich England as guard (with family) on board Convict ship 'Equestrian' bound for Tasmania and N.SW. Australia.
1844 90 days on Norfolk Island
1845 Maori Wars Bay of Islands New Zealand
1846 Discharged returned to Australia - Chelsea Pensioner. 1852 Died.
AFTER 1859 58TH REGIMENT RETURNED TO FARNBOROUGH ENGLAND AND THEN TO BELFAST IRELAND. THEY THEN RETURNED TO INDIA.
Someone asked what did James do? It has been suggested by relative married into Military family that at such a young age (17 years) he may have been assigned as servant to high ranking officer (looking after his clothes, horses etc.). On 17th Dec 1836, acting corporal James Noakes applied to join the police force - dhbe/DH/B/136/60 East Sussex records. This application was accompanied by endorsed testimonials (25 April 1836) by Willoughby Cotton Major General commanding Western District so there may be some truth in it. (Unfortunately he wasn't tall enough - 6ft). Also his discharge papers were signed by G. Kirby Horseguards 1847. Of course as a Sergeant he would have trained recruits.
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Armed Forces / Re: 58th Regiment of Foot
« on: Sunday 04 March 18 08:07 GMT (UK) »
Sergeant James Noakes was my Ggrandfather. He was born 1805 in Hastings, Sussex Eng. In 1872 aged 17 he joined the 58th Regiment of Foot at Chatham Barracks, Maidstone, Kent. In 1834 while posted at Fermoy Barracks in Cork, Ireland, he married Mary Ann Thornhill. At no time was he posted to India. Postings included 1826 Waterford Ireland - 1834, Cork Ireland - 1840, Portsmouth England - 1841 Scotland and Dublin Ireland. In 1844 he departed Woolwich England as part of the guard aboard the Convict Ship 'Equestrian' bound for Tasmania and Sydney Australia. Upon arrival in 1844 he spent 92 days as a guard on Norfolk Island and from there he was dispatched to the Bay of Islands, New Zealand where he took part in the Maori Wars. In 1846 he was discharged (Chelsea Pensioner) and sailed for Australia on the barque 'Slains Castle'. He settled in West Maitland, NSW where he died 25 Jan. 1852. Children: John Noakes b. 1836 Gosport, Hampshire, England d. 1912 Granville NSW Aust. Three children died in infancy. Mary Ann Noakes b.1841 Dublin Ireland d. 1925 Ashfield NSW Aust. James Equestrian Noakes b. 1844 on Convict ship 'Equestrian' d. 1905 Qld. Aust. Thomas SlainsCastle Noakes b. 1845 returning from Maori Wars on barque 'Slains Castle' d. 1908 Tamworth NSW Aust. George Noakes b. 1848 Maitland NSW Aust. d. 1917 Qld. Aust.
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Kilkenny / Re: Mary Sinnott b Abt 1838 Kilkenny, Ireland
« on: Monday 17 December 12 06:29 GMT (UK) »
I may be of some help. Mary Sinnott from Kilkenny was my great grandmother but trying to find information in Ireland is very difficult. I do know that Mary Sinnott, eldest daughter of Johanna (or Judith) Ronan and Patrick Sinnott of Windgap Kilkenny married Martin Leahey eldest son of Martin Leahey and Mary Dolan of Johnswell Kilkenny at Butt's Chapel, Parish of St. Canice, Kilkenny Ireland on 10 August, 1857. Their Golden Wedding Celebration was announced in the Sydney Morning Herald fifty years later. On the 7th April, 1859, Martin, his wife Mary, and baby Mary 6 mnths. arrived in Sydney Australia from Ireland on the ship 'Nimroud' (migration details are available). Martin became a tailor and together they had ten children. Mary died in 1910 and Martin died in 1911. They are both buried in the Roman Catholic section of Woollahra Cemetery, Sydney.
I am finding it very difficult to trace Mary Sinnott's tree in Ireland because she had a sister (cousin?) Catherine (she migrated a few years later) who lists her mother's name as Judith Ronan and father's name as Patrick Sinnott, while Mary lists her mother's name as Johanna (?) and father's name as Patrick Sinnott. Both sisters say their father was a clerk. If you have any information that can throw light on this, you might like to Email me on *. I could send you some material.
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I am finding it very difficult to trace Mary Sinnott's tree in Ireland because she had a sister (cousin?) Catherine (she migrated a few years later) who lists her mother's name as Judith Ronan and father's name as Patrick Sinnott, while Mary lists her mother's name as Johanna (?) and father's name as Patrick Sinnott. Both sisters say their father was a clerk. If you have any information that can throw light on this, you might like to Email me on *. I could send you some material.
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