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London and Middlesex / Re: John Drake 1773, help needed!
« on: Sunday 07 July 24 01:55 BST (UK)  »
I Know this post is now getting older, but a response re Ella Drake. Ella Wood Drake was born in new Zealand on 3 September 1864.
Her NZ birth registration is 1864/24912   Drake   Ella Wood   Elizabeth Lucy   William Henry

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I'm beginning to understand why this line in the family was so hard to find information about. Not having parents names didn't help of course, but going to Chicago!  :)

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Baby inquest and parents of Harold George Yates
« on: Sunday 30 June 24 01:27 BST (UK)  »
Harold George Yates born 1914 died 1915

What I can see
Baby's dea..((th) ...(black) Pool
An inquest was..........(l)ast night, on the body of (obscured/highlighted but likely to  be) Harold George Yates aged 15 Months
"Mrs Brown a visitor from Leeds, who was staying at 17 Endington road, with her sister-in-law, the mother of the deceased said that on Saturday  morning when carrying the child downstairs her foot slipped, causing her to fall forward. She attempted to grasp the handrail and in delay as she fell on her right side at .......
headline in Lancashire Evening.....

The other entry in the Blackpool Gazette has a part of story as "little victim was Harold   George Yates and he was the son Yr (might be mis-type for Mr.) and Mrs H.C. Yates of IL...)

What I need to know, is whether anyone has found these entries on newspaper's.com. I have a limited subscription due to expire in early July, but cannot find these entries.
The above wording I did find was on Findmypast.com.au. but don't have a subscription on this.
I don't have either of the parents names, but his mother  had the surname Bannan, in a birth index record. Harold George Yates  is buried with his great grandmother in Harehills Cemetery. West Yorkshire, England. Her name, Ellen (Sampson) Davies
The information on Ellen's entry isn't correct, so I'd like to find the parents of Harold George so I can send in a correction and the information off the inquest may help and also be an interesting addition to our family history.

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Technical Help / Re: Ancestry Tree Help
« on: Saturday 20 May 23 11:02 BST (UK)  »
PS
There is not a copy tree feature in Ancestry that I am aware of, create a Gedcom prior to undertaking the amendments
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Not sure of the capabilities of the tree owner so would have to check with her on that one.
According to "Edit relationship" the information doesn't get lost, it's still there. I did a test on one of my own small practise trees and that seems to be so.

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Technical Help / Re: Ancestry Tree Help
« on: Saturday 20 May 23 10:58 BST (UK)  »
Not sure how to do that with the tree. Once again the help area doesn't specify back-up, although it talks about downloading or up loading.

What is the name of the software that is being used?
Ancestry

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Technical Help / Re: Ancestry Tree Help
« on: Saturday 20 May 23 10:39 BST (UK)  »
Not sure how to do that with the tree. Once again the help area doesn't specify back-up, although it talks about downloading or up loading.

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Technical Help / Ancestry Tree Help
« on: Saturday 20 May 23 07:05 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone know best way to insert a missing generation in Ancestry. I'm trying to help a young lady sort her tree and one of the errors i have discovered is she is missing a generation, so that children are listed as grandchildren when they should be great grand children.  (Parents missing) The help section within this programme doesn't specifically list  this problem. As this tree has a large number of descendants, I don't want to suggest  moving anybody without knowing the correct way, incase I make her later generations disappear.

Moderator comment: title edited and topic moved to Technical Help

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United States of America / Re: San Francisco 1851
« on: Tuesday 02 August 22 03:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Oldohiohome,
Yes, C B Sampson , his sister Mary Georgina and brother in law John Scott all left Auckland on 18 November 1849 aboard Pilgrim. Shipping, lists Mr and Mrs. Scott and Child and Mr. Sampson.
 Alice McHone a grand daughter of Camilla, filed information in the Pioneer files and claimed that Mary Georgina saved Camilla from a ship-wreck. This wasn't quite right, but seeking to confirm I came across the entry from Walter Brodie which read,
"Pitcairn Diary, Walter Brodie
I must here mention a circumstance which took place on board of the "Pilgrim," bound from Auckland to California, as an illustration of the feeling which prevails among these people ; the passengers were preparing to go on shore to visit the island, in the quarter-boat, and very foolishly crowded into her before she was lowered down from the davits, the consequence was, that one davit gave way, so that the boat was towed along at an angle of 45 degrees by the other. Some of the passengers hung on to the boat, others who could swim assisted those who could not ; but in the confusion a child was lost sight of, and must have perished, had it not been fortunately observed by one of the islanders just as it was sinking, who immediately jumped off the poop of the vessel, and dived after the child and brought it up safe; the father of the child, Mr. Samson, came up from below, his two hands filled with dollars, which he pressed on the acceptance of the man who had done him so great a service, but without success, for he steadily refused to accept remuneration for what he considered only a single act of duty. This same man, be it remembered, had come on board for the express purpose of making money by the disposal of his produce, so that the nice distinction which he drew as to the means of acquiring it, deserves to be only the more highly appreciated."

Recorded, retrospectively 26 March 1850 from the Pitcairn diary of Walter Brodie and published Daily Southern Cross  8 October 1850  Page 4
and further evidence: Harbour Masters log 18 December 1849  Pilgrim at Pitcairn [130] [PITCAIRN ISLAND REGISTER BOOK]
SHIPPING LIST FOR1849
Dec. 18th Barque Pilgrim, London 30 days from Auckland. NZ bound for California.
While off the Island a number of passengers having got into one of the boats, previous to lowering, the davit gave way and precipitated them into the sea; a female child was rapidly disappearing  when one of our people sprang from the tafferel and rescued her from a watery grave.
 From the Pitcairn island register:  George Adams saved the life of a female child alongside a British ship in the offing.
George Adams was the son of Bounty mutineer, John Adams
So, an element of truth from Alice McHone, which makes me think that Mary Georgina was alive at Pitcairn.
John Scott (Widower) remarried on 14th February 1854 to Ann Dixon (Widow) in Cheltenham Gloucester.
As you say, Mary Georgina did not petition for a distribution from John Sampson's estate whereas all her other sisters did, and also her mother.. John Sampson died in San Jose:  Sept 22 1850 In California, John Sampson esq, second son of the late Rev George Sampson, Rector of Leven, Yorkshire Gentleman's Magazine 1851. Haven't found a burial for him either.
Part of the reason for asking about St Vincent's in Jessie street, was, that should records still exist, it might help narrow the timeframe for where Mary Georgina died. She would have been guardian for Camilla as Charles Beverley (father) was a bit of a drinker but also, had no wife (mother for Camilla)


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United States of America / San Francisco 1851
« on: Monday 01 August 22 12:59 BST (UK)  »
"Camilla began formal Education in 1851  San Francisco,  St. Vincent's School, Jessie St. (A Catholic School)" I'd like to find out if records still exist for this school,
I am still trying to solve the mystery of the disappearance of Mary Georgina (aka Georgiana) Scott
The statement above could be linked  as it is known that Mary Georgina was looking after her niece Camilla Beverley Scott Sampson, of the voyage aboard "Pilgrim" from Auckland NZ  to San Francisco 1849-50. The GB registered barque, Pilgrim arrived in San Francisco 4 February 1850 after 77 days from Auckland NZ
I see Jessie street San Francisco still exists, but does the Catholic School and if so where is it now? It's a bit of a longshot, but any clues to be found may help narrow when Mary Georgina died.
In 1860 she was under the guardianship of her father's friend John Deardorff.
 1860 at Age: 14, Camilla lived with her father's friend, John Deardorff, and John's wife Mary. In her father's will,(1861)  he left custody of Camilla to the Deardorffs until she married or reached age 23.
Further Education
IN 1862   Camilla was in Benicia, Solano, California, USA
She graduated Benicia Young Ladies Seminary (later the first site of Mills College).


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