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Census category: health: blind, deaf, dumb, imbecile, idiot, or lunatic.

 On her death cert, it says she died of congenital Brain Disease, and Broncal pneumonia four days. I don't understand how it could be congenital as I have not yet found any other family member with 'brain disease'.

Congenital only means present from birth. Heredity is when something is passed from one generation to the next. Some of the infectious diseases can cause damage to unborn children, trauma to the mother, or a difficult birth as you said.

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Australia / Re: Michael DWYER and his sister?, Tasmania, 1828?
« on: Friday 07 December 18 04:41 GMT (UK)  »
 
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I know nothing at all about his parents (just their names as given on the death certificate) or other siblings.  There has never been any suggestion that any others of his immediate family emigrated.

I've often wondered if this fellow is a younger brother - has the same parent names and come from Tipperary.

DEATH CERTIFICATE
1882 Deaths in the District of Rushworth in the Colony of Victoria
No: 297 (BDM # 3201)
Died 3rd January 1882, Moora, Shire of Waranga, County of Rodney
PATRICK DWYER, Farmer
Male, 63 years

Cause of Death, Duration: Chronic Diseases of the heart and liver, Three years
Medical attendant, last saw deceased: J C Heily, Surgeon, Rushworth; November 1881
PARENTS: JOHN DWYER, Farmer, MARY Dwyer, formerly RYAN
INFORMANT: MATTHEW DWYER, Son, Moora
Registrar, Henry Hicks, registered 3rd January 1882, Rushworth
Buried: 5th January 1882, Rushworth cemetery
Undertaker: Merchant Coy; Witnesses: Matthew Dwyer, Patrick Linnott?
Born Tipperary Ireland, 35 years in Victoria
Married in Melbourne, aged 25 years, to Ann Lynch.
Issue: Matthew dead; John dead; Mary Ann 32, James 31, John 29, Matthew 27, David 25

:)

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Australia / Re: DWYER of Mia Mia (Vic)
« on: Tuesday 27 November 18 19:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi. Thomas Dwyer who was born in Australia was my Father's grandfather. My grandmother Ellen was his eldest daughter. They lived with Thomas as Ellen was a widow with 6 children. My Father remembered his great grandmother and her dying at 101. My uncle owned the family farm until his death in 1970s. The farmhouse still stands.
I never did find out anything about that Thomas Dwyer, the name was just too common and I'd already spent too much on certificates. I haven't been in this part of my husband's tree for an age. Is this the one born about 1868 to William Dwyer and Mary Navin? All I have is that he died before 1906, since he was marked as dead on his father's death certificate. I'd love to know who he married and when he died. It's beaut that the family farmhouse still stands.

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Australia / Re: DWYER of Mia Mia (Vic)
« on: Tuesday 27 November 18 19:44 GMT (UK)  »
... I brought William's death certificate last week, to confirm that he was the one to marry Mary Navin...
Hi, This is an earlier post but a name caught my attention. Mary Navin, and the area is similiar to where my ancestor Honorah Navin lived.  She arrived on the Eliza Caroline, as an Irish famine orphan in 1850. She married Christopher Montgomerie who was a timber miller and worked in the Kyneton, Bendigo area. Just wondering if Mary Navin and Honorah Navin were related?
It feels like 100 years since I've been in this part of my husband's tree! I didn't do any research on the Navin line, nor did I transcribe the marriage into my online tree, so the details aren't handy. In 1860, she was married as Mary Nevins to William Dwyer and, on her death, her parents were named as Michael Navin and Margaret Connors. Mary was born about 1839 in Tipperary. Sorry I can't be more help.

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Australia / Re: Mary DWYER death
« on: Sunday 22 March 15 05:59 GMT (UK)  »
I've just transcribed the death notice for Mary (not real sure of death date) from an online newspaper image at TROVE.

Advocate (Melbourne, Vic)   
Thursday 11th September, 1930, page 34
MRS. THOMAS DWYER
Widespread general regret was expressed at the death of Mrs Thomas Dwyer, which took place at her her residence, "Tara," Mia Mia, early on the morning of August 10 [? faint]. Mr Dwyer, who was 71 years of age, was the widow of Mr. Thomas Dwyer who for many years was the owner and licensee of the Mia Mia Hotel. Mr. Dwyer was also the valuer and rate collector for the shire of Mclvor for nearly forty years. Mrs. Dwyer was a native of Ireland, but spent practically her whole adult life in Mia Mia. She was greatly beloved by a large circle of friends. Her loving nature was most clearly shown by her attitude towards her six step-children—her husband having previously married a daughter of the late Mrs Westblade, of Flower Hill Estate, Mia Mia, who, at her death, left six young children. The writer did not know for many years that Mrs. Dwyer was not the mother of these children so utterly devoted was she to them, and they reciprocated her affection warmly. She had three children, Miss Kitty, who lived with her, John, whose home is in New Zealand, and Charles, who lives in Melbourne. She had been in delicate health for many years, but had only taken to her bed about eight weeks before her death She was devotedly nursed during her illness by her daughter and stepdaughters. Throughout her illness she was constantly visited by the Very Rev. Fr. O'Dee, P.P., of Heathcote. Her funeral to the Kyneton Cemetery was very largely attended. The Rev. Fr. O'Dee held a service at the house and accompanied the funeral as far as Barfold, when he had to return to Heathcote for other duty. The Rev. Fr. Fitzpatrick, of Kyneton, officiated at the grave. The coffin was carried by Messrs. Michael Dwyer, John, and Michael Dargan, Joseph and Edward Dwyer, and Augustine Linklater, the sons, nephews, and grandson of her late husband. The day following the funeral Mass was offered at her home by the Rev. Fr. O'Dee for her eternal repose.    R.I.P.

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Australia / Re: DWYER of Mia Mia (Vic)
« on: Saturday 21 March 15 06:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hello everyone in this thread.
I picked up the new Mia Mia history book at my local library yesterday. It is an excellent publication. Congratulations to all those in the Mia Mia community who took part in compiling all that precious information.

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: looking for Thomas HUNTER after 1841
« on: Thursday 18 December 14 08:18 GMT (UK)  »
I know this is a really old thread, but just some more info ...

Mary Ellen HUNTER is my great-great grandmother, and after she died in 1889, Mary Ann PARISH arrived to look after the many children Mary Ellen had with Joseph BRITTEN. In 1890, Mary Ann married Joseph, and the following year, her brother (my great grandfather) married her stepdaughter, Emily.  I'm related directly by blood to all three families - Hunter, Britten and Parish.

It was my now defunct website quoted earlier in this thread. I do have a tree on TribalPages now, but this family isn't yet in it.

I haven't anything on Thomas Hunter.

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Ann, this post of yours is a few years old, but if you are still around ... I always believed John in the 1841 census to be the son of Thomas Turton, the surgeon. John is the same age and does not appear in the 1841 census at home.

I just checked the image of the 1844 Booth /Turton marriage and it quite clearly says his father is Thomas Turton, surgeon, so that proves the above theory nicely!  The only way the transcriber could have got Henry is because the registrar first started to write surgeon under Thomas' name instead of in the other column. With the stroke through the 'Su', it does look a bit like Hy, the abbreviated form of Henry.

I am looking into your theory of Martha having two marriages to a Turton. Especially in light of the fact John Turton spent the 1841 census night elsewhere in Moor Top with another woman with a different surname to his. (his looks like Turlow since the T isn't crossed]
 :)
ChristineR

Hello Christine
I am also interested in this family (because my grandson is descended from them).  I'm starting to think that Martha possibly married two Turton men. Her first son John Turton (born c 1817), a painter, was with his mother Martha in the 1841 census; there is a marriage between John Turton and Margaret Grace Booth which says John's father is HENRY TURTON and Martha is living with husband John Turner in following census records.  Of course, it could be a different Martha (there seem to be quite a few Marthas who married a John Turton on the LDS website!).
If you're still around and still interested in this family, I'd love to catch up with you.
Regards
Ann


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Australia / Re: DWYER of Mia Mia (Vic)
« on: Thursday 20 March 14 01:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Mia Mia girl,

I'm the ChristineR mentioned by judb. I had to come to Rootschat today to check on a private message (been so long since I have been here that I had to ask for a new password!). So, I thought I would browse a bit and checked out the 'new replies' key at the top of the page. So, I see your post.

My husband (who is the Dwyer relative) and I have been in the area since 1990. The only knowledge we have is from what I have learned through my family history research. We have no family stories of the Dwyers.

If you would like to PM me your email address I will send you an invitation to my Tribal Pages website. There, you can find absolutely everything I know about the Dwyers but would never be able to remember without looking at the notes! The dates and family structures might help prompt your father's memories about people too. If you want copies of birth, death, marriage certificates referred to in the notes I am happy to do that.

I've often wondered if the Dwyers around here were from the same lines.  :)

ChristineR

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