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Lanarkshire / Re: 1881 Census for Smyllum Orphanage question
« on: Monday 31 January 22 01:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, the Informant on Emma Bella's Death Certificate was her son-in-law. So, he may not have known much about her. The time in Colony states about 60 years in Australian states, so that gets back to 1877 approximately.
Enma Bella was the Informant on my grandmother's Birth Certificate, so Glasgow is her Birthplace.

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Lanarkshire / Re: 1881 Census for Smyllum Orphanage question
« on: Sunday 30 January 22 03:09 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, that is my Bella. She married Joseph/John Pearsall in Adelaide in 1882, and later, after Joseph's death, she married William Lee. On my grandmother, Ethel May Lamrock Pearsall's Birth Certificate, Bella was said to have been born in Glasgow. When she died, Bella was listed as having been born in Edinburgh. This often happens when the person registering the death is unsure of details. I think the Birth Certificate, filled out by Bella is the true one ie, born in Glasgow.
Unfortunately, I know nothing of Bella and Maria's history before their mention in Adelaide. Joseph Pearsall arrived in Sydney aboard the Nineveh on 10 November 1876, but I am unable to find how he got to Adelaide. A mystery!

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Lanarkshire / 1881 Census for Smyllum Orphanage question
« on: Sunday 30 January 22 00:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I am seeking information on Maria Hughes, born c1863 in Glasgow, died 1st March 1882 at Willunga, South Australia. Maria was a nurse at the Magill Orphanage in Willunga. she was the sister of my great Grandmother, Emma bella Hughes, father James.  I cannot find any information on their births, or immigration records of their arrival in Australia. There is a Maria Hughes of the right age, listed as a sewing maid at Smyllum Orphanage in the 1881 Census. Is this my Maria? If so, she only lasted less than a year after the Census, before dying of TB on the other side of the World. Coincidental, the Orphanage connection.

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Hello Jan, thanks for your post re George Alderson. I have had a look at the Alderson's American/Canadian family trees as a result of their coming up in response to Google searches. I found these very informative. I contacted a lady in Dent, Yorkshire who most graciously sent me some photos of the headstone of George junior (my G-G-grandmothers brother) who died in 1893 and is buried in Dent, Sedbergh, but no information on his father who is supposed to have died in 1832 and to have been buried in the same cemetery. Ah well, one day. Once again, many thanks.
Mick C

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Hello Karen
Thanks so much for your reply re George Alderson. Yes, it is extremely difficult to find some of our forebears at times (MOST times). As I live 75klms from Newcastle (NSW) and any Family History Groups, I rely heavily on Ancestry and Familysearch for my research. I do not take any thing I find on these sites as being 100%, rather I use them as a means of possibly finding potential ancestors. Re the Family Trees that some people have put on these sites - usually there is one only and then a whole lot of other people grasping for straws see the name they are looking for and then copy the first tree onto their own.  How often do you see a person died in say 1850 and then get married in 1855, have a heap of children after this date and appear in the Censuses ever-after.
The naming conventions used by the ancestors is invaluable in tracing family lines as is the use of the mother's maiden name - but, one still has to confirm each person before they can be included in one's Tree.
Rootschat has provided me with numerous leads from very helpful contributors and enabled me to get around a number of dead-ends and so I have posted my query about George Alderson in the hope this help will be once again be forthcoming.
Thanks again Karen
Mickc

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My G-G-Gmother, Mary Pearsall nee Alderson states on her 4th October 1840 Marriage Certificate that her father was George Alderson, Weaver. 1841 Census shows Mary as being born in Dent, Yorkshire 1814. Ancestry.com research has yielded her Birth with father George, mother Betty (Elizabeth).
Looking for George's Birth shows 21 October 1781 in Dent with father John Alderson and mother Ann. More research on Ancestry, many Family Trees have George (born 21/10/1781) and Elizabeth (Noddal) with Mary and her numerous siblings and show George's parents as Edmund and Mary (Craggs). As George's first-born son was named Edmund and first daughter named Mary, I lean toward the Edmund/Mary parents because of the naming of his children - can anyone over there shed any light on which of these two listings for George's 1781 birth is correct?
Cheers from Downunder
Mick C

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United States of America / Re: Goodrich in Baltimore Maryland
« on: Friday 20 December 13 02:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi again, to add to the previous Post. On Jane M Goodrich nee Whipple's Widows Pension Application she was living at Lamsons NY, the 2 Witnesses were son John Goodrich and (I presume) daughter Ida M Robbins. The Baldwinsville Gazette, Farmers Journal of February 1891 state Jane M Goodrich, aged 61, died of cancer on Feb. 13, 1891.
Hiram H. Goodrich Physician, died at Wright, Ottawa Co. Michigan. Strange, I thought, why was he there? But further research showed that his mother, Sophia Goodrich nee Bingham, re-married to a Silas Lillie of St Lawrence NY after the death of her husband Hubbard in a well collapse in 1835. She and Silas lived in Wright, Ottawa as did Hiram's sister Mary (Ann). Silas died in 1861 aged 71, so what happened to Sophia after his death - still to find this out. Mary Ann went on to marry William Robert Eckler before dying about 1866.
Another brother of Hiram was Delos Goodrich who enlisted in Company I of 1st Wisconsin Cavalry in 1861 and died of disease in Stevenson Alabama in 1864.
And so it goes on.
Mick C

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United States of America / Re: Goodrich in Baltimore Maryland
« on: Friday 20 December 13 01:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again, since my last Post here, I have established that the Mary F. Goodrich buried in 1922 was indeed nee Mary Lewis (not Lewes), thanks to getting her Death Certificate from Baltimore Archives. I sent away in October for Adelbert Goodrich's Death Certificate in New York through Archives.com and I am still waiting for that. I had to find someone in America to send the Certificate to, as they don't mail to overseas - they readily take your money for their subscription though. I found a reference to Jans M Goodrich applying for a Civil War Widow Pension in 1890 for a Hiram H Goodrich, discharged medically Unfit in 1863 in Pennsylvania. It gave the details of his Unit, so I took a punt that this might be Jane not jans Goodrich and so I sent away to your Federal Archives for the genealogy Package ($30). I received this, mailed to Australia in very quick time (congrats to them) and it was like Christmas. It stated that Jane M Goodrich was married as Whipple and her husband Hiram H Goodrich had died in Lamonti? Michigan in October 1873. Great!! I found out where Hiram had died ( his death details state that he was Single so maybe they were no longer together - it also gave his Parents names as Hubbard & Sophia Goodrich nee Bingham) While this information was good, Hiram's own Application for Disability Pension gave his Place of Birth as Jefferson New York.  So he was William Bingham Goodrich's brother. It allows me to go right back to Ensign William Goodrich in America, and further back to Suffolk in UK - Xmas came early for me!! All the best in 2014
Mick C

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Staffordshire / Re: Greaves - Harborne, Staffordshire
« on: Friday 06 December 13 21:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi expat66.
I have sent you a PM with my email address. Hope to hear from you. I knew Mary Ann Parry was a widow as I have a copy of the Matthew/Mary Ann Marriage. As she was single in 1851 Census and married to Matthew in 1856, I looked for a marriage between those dates. Only one I found was for a Mary Ann Heath, father Abraham, and to a Richard Parry, Tinsmith, on May 1 1853 - in Boston Massachusetts US. There is a Mary Ann Heath aged 20 on the Boston Passenger list on a ship named "1268"??? So this may have been our Mary Ann.
There are a few mentions of Edward Greaves, of Sydney, to be found in digitised newspapers on the national library site here in Australia. It is http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper
This is a really great source of information - make sure to use the 'Advanced Search' option.
Look forward to making contact.
Mickcee

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