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Cambridgeshire / Re: Warner of Eversden and others
« on: Friday 04 June 21 14:14 BST (UK)  »
No problem.

Just a word of caution - Thomas Dove began baptising his nine children in early 1584 at Saffron Walden, Essex whilst he was vicar there, and before he became Bishop of Peterborough. Im assuming he married shortly before then, although I cannot find a corresponding marriage either at Saffron Walden (where he was resident) or at Framlingham (where he was also appointed rector in 1584). If this marriage date is correct and Margaret was baptised shortly after her birth (which I do not dispute given the 2 year-ish gap between her and her early siblings), this would have made her a very young bride. Whilst not unlawful in Tudor period England for a girl to marry at 13, it would have been highly unusual. So far that marriage is proving elusive other than from second hand sources, none of which give a date or location.
By the way, I have posted the images of the baptisms and burials together with a transcription of Thomas's will on my Ancestry tree (funkymonkeymagic) where its publicly available.

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Cambridgeshire / Re: Warner of Eversden and others
« on: Friday 04 June 21 10:19 BST (UK)  »
Hope this helps:
Margaret Warner was baptised 16 March 1570/71 at Great Eversden as "Margaret Warriner". Although the transcription does not state Oliver as the father, the other siblings baptised follow the same pattern as the visitation pedigree, and her eldest brother (Thomas) who was baptised on 23 Jan 1564/5 does have Oliver stated as the father. I am pretty certain that this is her baptism. (Source: Cambridgeshire Family History Society Transcriptions)
She was buried at Peterborough Cathedral on the 3rd Feb 1625/6 with quite a detailed account. The image can be found on deceasedonline if you are interested, together with her husband Thomas and her son, also Thomas.

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Leicestershire / Re: Wigston burials, 17th century
« on: Saturday 26 September 20 16:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi - possibly a little late to the party but there is a will for Denys's wife Elizabeth Jackson in 1640 which mentions '...Richard, ye sonne of Robert Brewin a salting trough and unto his daughter Elizabeth the [same?] a featherbed a warming pan and a boulster'. It also mentions the daughters of William Noone, possibly confirming that her mother was from the Noone family too.

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Hi Omega,

Thanks for the speedy reply. I've collaborated with Chris for a number of years now working on the Ward / Darby family line (but didn't know he was corresponding on here too!).

Unfortunately this is a piece of the puzzle that we are both stuck on which was why we were hoping that the original register may have revealed more details on the parishes of the bride or groom - and in particular the bride.

Unfortunately other avenues that usually prove useful (British Libraray Newspaper Archive / nineteenth century periodicals on Google books etc) have so far drawn a blank.

Thank you anyway and good luck in your own researches.

Best wishes,
Carl

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Sussex Lookup Requests / BATTLE marriage lookup request - DARBY and TICEHURST
« on: Saturday 02 June 12 22:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to lookup a marriage in Battle for me?
Allegedly it occurred on 25th Sep 1793 between William TICEHURST and Sophia DARBY. I am particularly interested in whether it mentions the parishes that the bride and groom were from - I am very interested in whether Sophia came from outside of the parish and if so, where.

Fingers crossed and thank you in advance!

Best regards
Carl

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Thanks for all your help last year - I thought I'd complete the story based on new information I discovered this week, just in case anyone stumbles over this post looking for similar information.

I finally took some time from work and made my way to Birmingham to see the records for myself.

Temperance was indeed the daughter of John Nicholls the 'Gun Pollisher' (sic). She was baptised at the same time as 2 of her siblings (Emma and John).

As my trips to Brum library are few and far between (about once every 2 years), I asked about whether there were any plans to digitise the church registers as has already occurred for the rest of Warwickshire. The answer given was no and no future plans. Pity - I hope this changes.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage entry help please
« on: Tuesday 06 December 11 10:17 GMT (UK)  »
On the marriage entry for Nathaniel Hubbard and Elinor Hill, he is described as of 'Barkin' 'Esix'. This was indeed Barking as he and several members of his family were all buried there. I have checked the same registers for baptisms but could not find any for Hubbards. Indeed these generations baptisms I have so far not found, only surmised from the various wills.

Elinor Hill was the daughter of Matthew Hill, a presbyterian minister who resided in Charles County, Maryland. Elinor was bequeathed a large tract of land in Maryland called Poppleton which she handed back to her American brethen - presumably when she settled back in England. This often copied indenture shows the link:

29 Nov 1717; Recorded at request of William PENN,planter. 09 Aug 1717, Indenture from Nathaniel HUBBARD of Goodman's Fields in Parish of St. Mary White Chapel, Middlesex, Gent., and Eleanor his wife, one of the daughters and co-heirs of Matthew HILL of Maryland in America, Gent., dec'd; for love and affection to her neices and nephews, for 5s; a parcel belonging to Eleanor HUBBARD called Poppleton of 200 arces on the west side of Wicomico River; one half part to Edith DUTTON, d/o _______ DUTTON, dec'd, neice of Eleanor, to use of Notley DUTTON, brother of Edith DUTTON and nephew of Eleanor; equal moiety to Elizabeth PENN, d/o William PENN and Elizabeth his late wife, dec'd, formerly Elizabeth DUTTON, and neice of Eleanor, for default of issue then to William PENN, brother of Elizabeth PENN, nephew of Eleanor; /s/ Nathaniel HUBBARD, Eleanor HUBBARD, Wit: Susannah HUBBARD, Jno. CRANWELL, Sr., Abra ATKINS, Isaac DELPEECH, Not. Pub.; 12 Nov 1717 Capt. John FENDALL and William HOWARD, atty., ack. deed.

Poppleton still exists, but is now a suburb of Baltimore.

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Hi Colette,

Thank you for looking up the 1841 census for me, and my apologies for not replying sooner (holiday!)
Unfortunately I had already had this in my collection and should have made that clear in my initial post, so my apologies.
The age is a worry, for sure (even with the rounding of ages in that census) and so you may be right that either there was another birth, or the St Philips is not the right family (which is why I was hoping for evidence of the fathers occupation in the baptismal record).

Its unfortunate isn't it with the new Warwickshire records on Ancestry as they don't appear to have any for Birmingham or Aston. Their addition is on my Christmas list!

The only additional information I have managed to glean in the meantime on this family is that Mary Nicholls maiden name was STANDLEY (as evidenced by her youngest daughter born in 1839 - an eye watering 22 years after her first child)

Thank you again for your help, and I hope your own searches proves fruitful.
Best wishes,
Carl

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / NICHOLLS Baptism (BIRMINGHAM: St PHILLIPS) lookup please
« on: Thursday 22 September 11 09:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I'm new to this board - so I'm hoping you can help me!
I am trying to evaluate whether I have the 'right' family before I make the decision to travel to get a copy of the original registers.

I am looking for confimation of the occupation of the father for the following entry:
28th April 1817: Saint Phillips, Birmingham - Temperance NICHOLLS, parents John & Mary.
I am hoping that his occupation is of the gun trade, most likely Gun Polisher.

Fingers crossed and best wishes,
Carl

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