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Aberdeenshire / Re: Charles Reid, Aberdeen, 1855 - 1927
« on: Thursday 14 May 20 19:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi! I am still here although I have never found this site very useful. I have put everything I know about this family on Ancestry.com.

Happy to chat, though.

Judi

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Caithness / Catharine Bruce of Toftkemp
« on: Wednesday 18 January 12 22:23 GMT (UK)  »
Any information would be welcome on Catharine or Catherine Bruce, from Toftkemp, who married George Sutherland of Bowermadden in 1795.  Looks like they had two sons, John and Joseph, born 1796 and 1799.

Does anyone know any more about this family?

thanks
JS

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Caithness / Re: Stuck with a Scottish problem
« on: Sunday 08 January 12 14:55 GMT (UK)  »
That's a good thought about family members - I'll give it a try.  It has struck me that he might have been Free Church or Presbyterian but there isn't any trace in non-conformist records.  As regards birthplace, in the census he always insists he was born in Wick - unless he is wrong about that.

thanks
J

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Caithness / Re: Stuck with a Scottish problem
« on: Friday 06 January 12 08:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Tom

Yes, that is the correct Joseph.  He did marry a much younger woman but that was after he fathered the child with Catherine.  He must have been looking for a wife and heir but decided Catherine was unsuitable.  Peter did not inherit anything - he's not mentioned in Joseph's will depite being his firstborn son.

regards
Judi

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Caithness / Re: Stuck with a Scottish problem
« on: Thursday 05 January 12 23:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Carole, for spending time on this, but I don't think that's her.  She's probably born 1825 and her father is Donald Forbes.  She appears to have no children prior to poor old disinherited Peter, when she was about 19.  Joseph on the other hand was a single farmer in his mid 40s when Peter was born - there's a great story there somewhere!

I would like to look up bastardy orders if I can work out how.

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Caithness / Re: Stuck with a Scottish problem
« on: Thursday 05 January 12 23:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Graham

I've thought of that and thre is no Peter Sutherland or Forbes, aged 8, born Wick or nearby, living with anyone other than his two married parents, or in one case a widowed mum called Christiana.  Peter Sutherland is a common name up there.

I think Catherine was living with her parents in 1851, unmarried, but Peter is not there.  I think she may have married James Reid in 1855.

The mystery continues.

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Roxburghshire / Re: Laidlaw Family Tree, 1738 - 1904, compiled by Helen Douglas Scott
« on: Thursday 05 January 12 22:58 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Lyn

Just seen your message.  I have Laidlaws from Roxburghshire in my tree, specifically a James Laidlaw born about 1801, who moved to Sunderland and married a girl from Cheshire called Hannah Aloes.

Where can I get hold of the Laidlaw tree you mention, please?

thanks
Judi

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Caithness / Stuck with a Scottish problem
« on: Thursday 05 January 12 22:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all

I've got stuck with a relative named Peter Sutherland, born Wick, Caithness, 1843-44.  I've got his marriage cert. and death cert. which both indicate he was illegitimate with an "alleged father" Joseph Sutherland, farmer, and mother Catherine Forbes.  The couple never married. I've looked on ancestry.co.uk, familysearch.org and Scotland's people and I cannot find his birth cert. or any trace of a Peter Sutherland or Forbes of that age in the 1851 census who is not living with two married parents.

My question is - is there a reason why somebody would have a birth cert which is missing or never existed?  Were there exclusions from the census records for e.g. orphanages or workhouses, and where might I look for him?  I have a feeling he was not brought up by his mother.

all clues very gratefully received.

thanks
Judi

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Cheshire / Aloes family, Tarvin
« on: Wednesday 04 January 12 15:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

I have just found my first hint in Cheshire; a lady called Hannah Aloes, born Tarvin around 1795, married in Sunderland to James Laidlaw, a Scot from Roxburghshire.  I have no corroborating evidence of her existence.  Any information would be most helpful, thank you!

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