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Lanarkshire / Re: William Henry McGuire
« on: Sunday 16 October 11 06:12 BST (UK)  »
And one other question maybe someone can help me with.

When William Henry McGuire arrived in the Colony (1836) he had "WHMMM" in a heart on which was a plume of feathers, tattooed inside lower right arm.

I can only conclude the "tatt" was most likely acquired on the voyage out; WHM is obviously his initials; and MM has me stumped. Must be the initials of some lady he had befriended during his final years in the Scottish Regiment on the rare occasion he had leave. He ended up marrying Isabella Duncan Aitken, a resident of Edinburgh, Candlemakers' Row, reasonable close to Edinburgh Castle.

And would the plume of feathers relate to the Scottish regiment?

Any suggestions/ideas would be most appreciated.

Colin.S

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Lanarkshire / Re: William Henry McGuire
« on: Tuesday 11 October 11 06:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi 4HORSEMEN

To be precise, no, I clicked on the link, checked through the names and maybe entered a long "seniors moment" during which I could not find Stan... it's like the vegemite in the fridge that my wife hides!

But I spent a lot of time on sites based on the link and from one, downloaded some information about Scottish history leading up to when WHM, a jute weaver, enlisted in the Scottish Regiment. I'm currently working through that now. And  immediately after I send this email I'm going to have another look for Stan. My apologies but I need more directions from you to reach Him. Thanks in anticipation. Colin.S

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Lanarkshire / Re: William Henry McGuire
« on: Sunday 09 October 11 08:30 BST (UK)  »
Thanks 4HORSEMEN-
and thanks for the message about Stan. I'll chase that up. Yes Alexander was a teenager when Thunderbolt was in his prime 1863-70. Alexander later (1880) took up a selection at the base of Mount Duval not very far away from "Thunderbolt's Cave". Alexander's (later) wife, Margaret McNeven, who was 106 when she died in 1960, claimed to have met Thunderbolt, stating he was a friendly, harmless wronged settler. Family folklore went further to say that she had offered him shelter, meal and bed for the night on several occasions, however given that she was born in 1854 this offer would have had to describe the actions of her parents, Donald and Mary McNeven. Colin.S

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Berwickshire / Re: Aitken and/Harvey/Hardie
« on: Tuesday 27 September 11 12:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tiger Lilly

I have been putting together a book on my ancestors, going back to William Henry McGuire and Isabella Duncan Atiken. I have some information that may help you, if you are still looking, and would be delighted to find out what else you know.

Cheers

Colin McGuire


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Lanarkshire / Re: William Henry McGuire
« on: Thursday 22 September 11 07:35 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the helpful replies. Certainly helps fill in the background, and raises some more questions. Would there be a list of soldiers in the Scottish regiment involved in the Napoleonic War? And if so, where? And where would Court Martial records be kept? William Henry's was on the 21st January, 1835. His sentence... 14 years and some sources also add, 200 lashes. I assume if this is correct, the lashes would have been administered in the next six months before he set sail for the land downunder!

Just for the record, WHMcG ended up a shepherd for some time... and during that time, in 1859, as a free man in fact, sent in a Petition to the NSW Colonial Government claiming the success of the candidate in the election for New England was based on fraudulent voting- multiple voting in fact. His petition failed but next election the candidate moved on to another electorate. WHMcG also ended up buying 170 acres (68ha) of land (sheep farming) near Armidale in NSW.

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Lanarkshire / Re: William Henry McGuire
« on: Saturday 10 September 11 06:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ambly
Many thanks for your prompt response. Yes, some, but not all of the information, I have come across. Assuming the "born at sea", why would his father have a very pregnant partner/wife on a ship returning from war? I have difficulty believing my relatives would be high ranking officers!! Certainly intriguing stuff.

Seems likely William Henry was being bullied in the army by a new NCO. At age 31 you don't 'lose it' for nothing.

Have been putting together a book for our family on William Henry and his descendants, down the Alexander Aitken McGuire line in Australia. An interesting tale. I wish I could find out more about these times.

Would church records be available for his parents- about 1760+? I have scans of the baptism record for Isabella.

Colin.S   

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Lanarkshire / William Henry McGuire
« on: Saturday 10 September 11 02:51 BST (UK)  »
Born about 1804 Glasgow. Seeking any information about William Henry's parents and his Court Martial on January 21, 1835.

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