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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Tuesday 29 May 12 02:15 BST (UK)  »
more for you  ...
source; RootsWebAUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS-L Archives
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I have found a reference to my Joseph Hutton, per Hercules, 1832,
working as a shepherd on a property near Moonbi ( Tamworth area) after he
received his C of F.  It has been suggested that the property, known as Swamp Oak Creek, was owned by Philip Gidley King, but the source of this information was not recorded.

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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Tuesday 29 May 12 02:04 BST (UK)  »
Hello GlenRuth

As Annie Hutton is my great grandmother I have a lot of information about her children.  I am very lucky to have had the opportunity to talk with people who knew her immediate family.  I have not much at all on Mary Ann Owen's children and their ancestry.
Thanks for the info, I have now been able to fill in missing records re. the children of Mary Whelan & Joseph Hutton, much appreciated.

further to Joseph Hutton & Mary Ann Owens children:

* Annie b.1882-26 Apr 1955 m. 1902 Tingha, Joseph George Rolfe (yes he was known as George)
* Elizabeth Margaret Ellen b.1884 m. 1902 Inverell, KLEINHAUSS  ?
* Joseph b.1885 -1930 m. ,
* Mary A  b.1891 m. 1906, Tingha, Edward Bates ? (Mary would have been 15yrs old?) ?
NOTE; an Edward Bates died in 1910 GOULBURN, perhaps Mary Ann married again in 1912 Darelet Khan ?
* Edward  b.1892 -1939 m.
* Cornelius  b.1894-1936 m. Louisa Dezius b.1894 ? twin to Mabel ?
* Mabel Ethel Agnes  b.1894 .d 'unknown' twin to Cornelius? perhaps she died at birth?

the following for consideration ... hope you can follow my research, bit cryptic !

This is the only death record I have located for KLEINHAUSS in NSW BDM online index:
D. 8200/1958    KLEINHAUSS    MARGARET    47 YRS    MANLY SYDNEY
D. 8200/1958    KLEINHAUSS    MARGARET    47 YEARS    MANLY SYDNEY
Margaret KLEINHAUSS would have been born abt 1911, perhaps she is the daughter of Elizabeth M b.1884?

M. 2538/1906    BATES EDWARD,    HUTTON    MARY A, TINGHA
M.14923/1912    DARELET  KHAN,    HUTTON    MARY A, NARRABRI (Mary would have been 21yrs old?)

M. 14923/1912 KHAN DARELET,    HUTTON    MARY A, NARRABRI
M. 12570/1924 BROWN HERBERT,    HUTTON    MARY,  TINGHA

Edward & Mary Ann's children?
B. 18724/1906    BATES    NITA A E, f) EDWARD J m) MARY A,    TINGHA 
B. 42380/1909    BATES    EDWARD T f) EDWARD m) MARY A    TINGHA 

further food for thought ...

There is a ref to a Private J Hutton in the book 'World of it's Own, Inverells's Early Years 1827-1920', Elizabeth Wiedemann p225_a letter from Private J Hutton to his father, from 'somewhere in France'.
Have you seen this letter?

It appears that Mary Whelan, her baby son James and baby daughter Mary A all died in 1865_do you know why?

James (son of Mary Whelan) & Jane?
D 2365/1893 HUTTON JOSEPH, JAMES & JANE F ,ARMIDALE

D. 9527/1912 HUTTON RAYBURN f) JOSEPH m)   MARY BEGA

Hutton Joseph, stonemason, 35 Union St, Newtown
Mary Hutton, Storekeeper, factory at Clyde
source; Sands Directory Sydney & NSW 1858-1933 - Ancestry Library.com

Joseph Hutton; born date in 1817 in Exeter, Devon, England, mother; Frances Littlejohn, father; Joseph Hutton - source; ancestry.com family tree info
Mary WHELAN an Irish orphan?
Joseph HUTTON became a policeman at Warialda in 1852?
source; RootChat ...Sally Northey
'My husbands' Joseph HUTTON arrived as a convict on 'Hercules' in 1832.
Joseph HUTTON was charged for breaking and entering the dwelling of
Elizabeth Littlejohn in the Parish of St. Davids, County Devon, England on
31 December 1830 and stealing a crown, a half crown, two shillings and a
sixpence. This Elizabeth Littlejohn could have been a relative of Joseph's
as his mother was Frances LITTLEJOHN.  Joseph was transported to the Colonies for a term of 14 years. He worked arount Maitland. On the 21st April, 1851 he married Mary WHELAN an Irish orphan.  Joseph HUTTON became a policeman at Warialda in 1852 and while there a son Cornelius HUTTON was born in 1855. Cornelius married Louisa DEZIUS in 1884 at Bundarra and my husband is descended from this line.  Is there any HUTTON researchers out there.
note; I have not yet contacted Sally.

Lyn


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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Sunday 27 May 12 03:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi GlenRuth,

any information I forward is to the best of my knowledge true, otherwise I will note the info  with '?' or 'unconfirmed'_further research required.  So as one has to start somewhere, I will start by answering your question  ...
re. Mary Ann Owens' birth & death
NSW BDM online index; Born 4735/1858 OWENS MARY A, f) JOHN  OWENS & m) MARY, BATHURST
Death; 1909 Walcha NSW

I can not find a record of any marriage record between John Owens & Mary?
Children of John Owens & Mary ? unconfirmed ...
V18432377 27A/1843     OWENS   ANNE M,  JOHN &  MARY
V18513299 162B/1851    OWENS JOHN, JOHN & MARY
V18513297 162B/1851    OWENS JOHN, JOHN & MARY    
3141/1856 OWENS ISABELLA ,   JOHN & MARY    BATHURST   
4735/1858 OWENS MARY A,  JOHN  & MARY , BATHURST
4779/1861 OWENS CHRISTOPHER J, JOHN & MARY, BATHURST
4982/1863 OWENS WILLIAM P, JOHN & MARY, BATHURST      
5386/1865 OWENS CLARA E,    JOHN & MARY    BATHURST
6780/1869 OWENS MARY E A,    JOHN & MARY    BATHURST

source; Marriage Transcription Mary Owens & Joseph Hutton
1881 May 8th, ST ANDREWS COE WALCHA NSW
Mary SPINSTER, Laundress, usual residence was OHIO (not in America, apparently it's a town close to Walcha).
Joseph BACHELOR, Stockman, usual residence was SALISBURY PLAINS
WITNESS'S; WALTER FORD, MARGARET OWENS? sister or sister in-law?
Minister; EDMUND GEORGE MOBERLY
that's all the known details from the transcription.
 
for consideration only, perhaps relevant to our family in some way, not confirmed, further research required ...
Assisted Immigration
OWENS Mary Ann AGE 20 VESSEL Aberdeen
ARV.1886 Sydney *parent(s) on board (listed separately). Arrived November.
OWENS John AGE 53 VESSEL   Aberdeen ARV.1886 Sydney * and son; cob - child(ren) on board (listed separately). Arrived November
OWENS Thomas age 24    vessel Aberdeen arv.1886 Sydney * and father. Arrived November
SEE ship record Aberdeen 5 nsw state archives

Same as you I'm not a full member of Ancestry; 'unpaid member' with a public tree, I do understand your frustration.  The issue with not being able to contact other owners of trees (having to wait and see if they contact you) is also very frustrating.  When people copy images from your ancestry tree it would be nice to be given the opportunity to network and collaborate together for the higher good! paid or unpaid! oh well, lets not forget that ancestry.com is a business that needs to make $s after all.  However unpaid members with public trees do provide a wealth of information for ancestry.com.  You can get my email address from fb or leave me a message and I will get back to you, Lyn Sullivan Byron Bay, not keen to post details here.

Bye for now




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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Saturday 26 May 12 05:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi GlenRuth,

my great grandparents; Annie HUTTON & George ROLFE, my grandparents; Stella ROLFE & Patrick SULLIVAN.  I can share my ROLFE_WHITBY research  with you if you like. I don't know much about the HUTTONS, but would like to.  May I ask how you are related to the family?

Lynette

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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Wednesday 14 December 11 22:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Merrin,
I have not been able to reply to you via email, here is mine * , hope to chat soon :)

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Australia / Re: Photograph - Harringtons - possibly Riverland district
« on: Friday 09 September 11 11:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I also have an old  photograph, on the reverse there is stamped "Printed by Harringtons" enclosed in a circle.  The image is of three young men standing side by side, with what looks like a picnic basket and beverage in bottles sitting on top.  I dont know that any of my ancestors lived in South Australia.  More likely the Hawkesbury River area, Inverell or Casino.  If anyone can enlighten me I would be very pleased as I would like to also identify the area where the photograph was taken,
Lynette

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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Friday 09 September 11 08:40 BST (UK)  »
Hello  Merrin,
I would dearly love to see your collection of old family photographs! I live in Byron, do you live close by in the Tweed? do you have a tree on ancestry.com? I do, would you like to view the family tree as it looks so far?  if so I need your email to give you access.  I have mostly been researching mums ancestors, only now have I branched out into my dads ancestry.  Stella Rolfe married Patrick Sullivan in Casino 1925,
3 CHILDREN:
1. Desmond SULLIVAN B.Casino 1929 M. Jeanette DURAND 1955 Windsor _BOTH LIVING (my parents)
2. Iris SULLIVAN B. Casino 1928 D. Goondiwindi QLD 1990 M. Stan COOK 
3. Kath SULLIVAN B Casino 1926 D. Coffs Harbour 2007 M.Marrickville 1957 Trevor MURPHY
When Aunty Kath died a bundle of old photograph came to me for safe keeping.  I would like to find out as much as possible about where they came from, how they lived and loved, and gather all the family images that are scattered everywhere into a collection for all to enjoy and treasure.
The old photographs and a few family stories my dad, his sister Kath and his mum Stella have told me, are the foundation of my research so far, I have a long way to go!

Aunty Kath & Nan are no longer around, they where the keepers of their family history, wish I could talk with them now.  The Sullivans still have descendants living in Casino Lismore area, we keep in touch, they have been most helpful and provided more photos and some memories of the Rolfe family, in particular Stan Rolfe, being Stella's brother, he had 'for the time' a high tech dairy farm close by the Sullivans Stratheden property. The Inverelle chapter is a mystery to me, the Rolfe_Hutton_Whitby_Goodfellow connections are calling me! 

Do you know anything about the Huttons of Walcha? 1902 Tingha NSW Joseph George Rolfe married Annie Hutton (I have photos of her).  My dad has fond memories of Annie, however I know little about where she came from. I believe Mary Ann Owens was her mother & her father Joseph Hutton.

I have a Photo of a group of women 'War Chest Workers' Fern Hill/hall Inverell; it is unusual, the women all have what appears to be an eight point star symbol around their necks , dressed in long what appears to be white dresses, old fashioned hats, two of the woman are in long dark dresses noteable people have been marked with x and names on the back, I believe it is possible at least three generations of the woman in my family may appear in this picture:
Amy Rolfe (my Grandmother Stella's  sister)
Mrs Rolfe - Annie( Hutton) - Amys mother, (my great grandmother)
Mrs Whitby, - perhaps this is Ellen (Goodfellow) Moses daughter ?
Hilda Whitby - a Hilda Whitby was born in Inverell 1902 f) John m) Harriet. E. ?

I also have a photo of Annie Hutton dressed in high rank womens regalia, oddfellows/masonic??? apron with tassels, letters PG MU, 8 point star with something inside it, poss open book ?

any ideas? has anyone seen such images in their old family photographs from Inverell ?

Lynette


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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Thursday 08 September 11 09:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Merren,
my line also comes from Ellen Goodfellow _ Whitby _ Rolfe
I have some great old photos of the Rolfes handed down from my grandmother Stella Rolfe b.1906 Tingha NSW.
Lynette

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Wiltshire / Re: GOODFELLOW (Moses) in Fovant
« on: Thursday 08 September 11 09:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Frances,
I have just joined rootschat re. Moses & his descendants.  Moses is my 4th greatgrandfather on my fathers side.  I would be very grateful to have a copy of the image you have posted of Moses & Jane. Would you be willing to email me a copy ? I am more than happy to share what I have with you and anyone else who would treasure them as I do.  I have a few oldies that have been handed down via my grandmother Stella Rolfe.  Some I can identify some I am not sure about.  Do you think I might find out who the mystery ancestors are if I posted them here?
Lynette

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